Dear LEGO : 1875


Dear LEGO / 1875

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Tom Stangl

Yeah, but the problem is that they called Larry BEFORE me, so of course I knew most of the stock was gone already ;-) I actually bought nothing at all this time, which I'm sure will make some people happy. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Matthew Teets

After posting the first inventory and prices and starting this whole thing. I hope you guys are leaving something for me this weekend! Geez, I gotta tell those guys to at least give me a week to make a trip up there. By the way, what new stuff is (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Frank Filz

(...) It isn't actually in yet. When the called me, they had two 6078 left (none left after me, sorry), some divers (6560 and maybe another, no 6557), some Technic (8440, fire engine), and maybe some other stuff. The 6078s are the only thing I went (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Matthew Teets

Phew, I may actually get some stuff. If it's in tomorrow or even next week I'll try to make a trip up there and post an inventory again. I'm only an hour away so it's an evening trip for me. Matt (...) thing. I (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Matthew Teets

I'm back from my trip, talked to the store manager today and he said that indeed Tom and Larry bought up all the good stuff that was coming in already (THANKS FOR SHARING!!!) But here is an updated list of stuff that has come in since I wrote my (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —James Powell

(...) Do you have the codes? 7850 is straight 4.5V track. I'd love more... 7810 Locomotive without Motor (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —James Powell

(...) Do you have the codes? 7850 is straight 4.5V track. I'd love more... 7810 Locomotive without Motor to 7867 {12v train light posts} Are 12 V/ 4.5V era train stuff...so, my guess is that it is 4.5V track, since some has shown up in the Georgia (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Kevin Loch

(...) Before anyone gets too excited, the 78***'s are *not* trains, they are some kind of promotional assortments < $10 sets. KL (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Tom Stangl

AHEM! If you would look back at my post, I said I bought NOTHING at all this time. So blame Larry and Frank ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Is this a matter for blame? I didn't call the store, the store called me! Presumably they'd like to sell larger lots to fewer people as it cuts down their costs. So naturally they call their good customers first, the ones that buy lots and (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

(canceled) —Ben Roller

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Ben Roller

(...) I would say that it IS a matter of blame, for the store. Lego is not playing very nicely in the local economy by mailing off inventory before it's even on the shelves. There are enough customers here in the local area(1) that would have bought (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Larry Pieniazek

(...) So get them to call you too, then buy enough that you sort to the top of the list. (...) Good advice (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Mike Stanley

(...) Hrmmmm - I'm a little miffed I didn't get a call (I could have used some 6078's) but I don't agree with this. Just think about it. They know the stuff is coming in. They call two people who agree to buy all of some items. Those items come in (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Ben Roller

(...) I would agree if the Lego Outlet store was out in the middle of a field somewhere. On some level though I think that they are not playing well with their community. It's great for the people that get called. It's great for Lego. It's aweful (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Mike Stanley

(...) I really do see what you're saying I guess it just doesn't ring through for me. I'm very much a non-shopping person. I know the KBToyWorks is in some sort of thing you would probably call an outlet mall. I've been there several times. I have (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

I don't begrudge anyone finding a good deal. But it would bother me to think that some few of us are favored by TLC because of their purchasing power. This is why I have and will continue to favor a Lego Direct arrangement in which TLC, or perhaps a (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !!

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Poindexter

Richard: I am sorry, but you just don't get it. #1 - These are not "Rare, expensive sets" in Lego's eyes. These are sets that nobody wants to buy. That is why they are old. It is not TLC's job to watch ebay and Lugnet to find out how to "most (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Then they should catch a clue -- or is Brad Justus just a troll here? Is he just a plant to stem the tide of our venom as I already half suspect? I'm sorry, but I think it is very much TLC's job to pay attention to what we fans want, and not (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

Richard, I'm certainly not an economist, so my feelings are just a mildly educated opinion, but I don't think you will ever see any major company have a distribution channel like you want. It won't work. If it was such a good idea, retail outlets (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks

(...) I don't think that both sides in this debate are essentially disagreeing, just stating (seemingly) incompatible ideas. That is, I agree with both sides to some extent - I would like to see a "fair" distribution of LEGO, but I don't think there (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) and I don't. I guess I'm rather put off by this attitude. Economic reality is what it is and your wishing that TLC cared about us to the point that they lose money isn't going to change that. And I'm tired of you whining about it. That's (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

Methinks he doth protest too much! A tad touchy about this subject aren't you, Larry? I label myself the "lego curmudgeon" which is intended to suggest that my incendiary mode of expression is half jest/whole earnest -- but not to be taken too (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

In lugnet.dear-lego, Richard Marchetti writes: I'm gonna skip most of the rest of your drivel and just focus on a few points. (...) calling (...) Who said they haven't. Not sure what this has to do with anything. Whether it's them calling us or them (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) And they really _weren't_ worth much to the GP - otherwise there wouldn't be any left. I wouldn't have been able to pick up a ton of them at half price, both at Wal-Mart AND S@H (many times they were on sale for cheap). Please, people, you're (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Peter Callaway

(...) Larry, I'm guessing you want these sets for the four grey "C" wall pieces (or whatever they're called)? If not, how much do you want for them? They look ideal for a couple of my projects. Pete Callaway P.S. As for this debate... I'm not even (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) White, and I think they're called corridor wall sections. That is indeed what I want them for... ++Lar (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) This is getting to be exactly what I think of much of what you post, Larry -- or did you think you had a corner on this market too? The difference is that I am not quite as self-serving or puffed up as yourself, apparently. My ideas are a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

In lugnet.dear-lego, Richard Marchetti writes: <sniiiiip> You're missing my point... go respond to Mike, he gets it. Perhaps you can refute him with less parsiflage. ++Lar (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

(...) Richard, you still don't get it. This is in fact what S@H does, and in fact because of their pricing scheme, they make more of the person who orders 10 of set X than 10 people who order 1 each of set X. Why? Well first, the shipping cost isn't (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Scott Arthur

"Larry Pieniazek" <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:Fs2Jow.4z7@lugnet.com... (...) points. (...) clue. (...) call (...) a web (...) Juno, (...) it's (...) Them (...) Them (...) after (...) called (...) inbound. I (...) right? So (...) people (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Craig Livingston

While I expect that in a discussion of this length no one will read this, here goes: I see two sides to this argument. One, Larry and whoever else wants to keep there arrangement intact, ensuring the greatest satisfaction. The other side, including (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Well, not sure which Mike you're talking about, but I personally wasn't called. I personally would like to have gotten some more 6078's. But I personally don't mind that someone else got the call before or instead of me. The only thing I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Johnston

(...) I will... (...) But why should the "system" *not* reward the "more spend happy customers"? Larry spends a whole lot of money at the Outlet. The manager of the outlet has a job: sell LEGO. He is able to do this job *and* do a favor for a good (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Craig Livingston

A couple of thoughts here: 1. I have no side in this argument. I understand the business practices of the manager. I disagree with them. As I said, I wouldn't be able to convince you if I was God, anyway. Therefore I will let you have the false (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks

(...) Objective rants aren't as much fun to write. (...) 'Wrong' is an innapropriate word choice - for short-term profit, selling lots of things to one person is better. For keeping as much fans happy as possible, spreading it out more equally is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) Well, here's hopefully an objective rant... The fact that LEGO has set up outlet stores means that they are bleeding. The outlet stores are a desperate attempt to limit that bleeding. The outlet stores sell obsolete stock at discounted prices (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard W. Schamus

(...) At this point I have to concur with Todd. Let's look at this way. In an article just published with Tom Stangle as the focal, (or was it mindstorms... anyway,) Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen, TLC Pres, remarks that this year has pulled them out of hot (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Will Hess

(...) keeping it (...) price, (...) make (...) with a (...) You can always sell it yourself at a loss. Although this is not a very practical business model there's no escaping the fact that some products are dogs and you'd do well to get something (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Craig Livingston

(...) I believe this last comment was directed at me. I need to apologize if anyone got the idea that the haves and have nots issue has anything to do with money or egalitarian economics. Only that a certain segment has access to the lego sets and (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Craig Livingston

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

I've got a few thoughts here (like I haven't already): The fact that the outlet will not ship to nearby customers sucks. There is no good reason to limit where they ship. If that is a policy of TLC, hopefully they will can that policy as a result of (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Paul Sinasohn

(...) Of course, we thought we had a shot at this consortium thing last year through Denmark, but nothing ever came of it. And someone mentioned the Constitution set in this thread - were there really Constitution sets available??? I would like to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

Paul Sinasohn wrote in message ... (...) through (...) It may have died because they decided they wanted to work it through Lego Direct. Or, alternatively, it may have been a significant factor in shaping Lego Direct. In any case, I think Brad is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) I'm in. But I guess we might as well for Lego Direct to happen / not happen and see what they can come up with. I just hope they aren't listening to or dealing exclusively with the "have's" in this thread -- they are probably the wrong fellows (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Although the "elite have's" are more than likely the ones, even among AFOLs, who will be their best customers. I don't know what Lego Direct will end up being, if anything at all. I'm _personally_ offended at the nonchalant way ol Brad jumps (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Given a bunch of asses and this nice fellow, why not pick him? At least its exclusively what he does. Its not about buying the sets for resell for me. Its about TLC giving everyone an even chance, that's all. Why is that so ridiculous a thing (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to ask at all. It's only unreasonable, that's all. Not that it wouldn't be wonderful -- it's just not going to happen if the reason for TLC's having set up the outlet stores is to minimize hemorrhaging due (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Not at all if its true. This is merely an assertion on your part. TLC has stated nothing here to that effect. But if you think its wonderful, why do you resist the idea? No ifs, ands, or buts -- just get behind the ideas you support. Choose. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) Ya, it's an educated guess...or if you're skeptical, just a wild guess. (...) I would support Larry's proposal in December that his company help TLC with their ERP, so that the outlet store might no longer be necessary. Personally, I love the (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Steve Bliss

(...) I think you are correct in your guess as to why the outlet stores have popped up (ie, TLC is attempting to stem the bleeding). BUT, in the current high-turnover business climate, there will always be a need to have a 'dumping ground' for (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

(...) What?! Troy is a good guy because he buys up LEGO sets from the stores and re- sells them, but Larry is a bad guy because he has a project which requires many corridor sections, so he buys a bunch of Nebula Outposts for his own use? Or I'm a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) I never called anyone elitist (I checked to be sure). And very early on I excluded you from my comments. Take offense if you will, but I selected you out of the comments I made directly and indirectly about others. Not you, Frank. Not you at (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) A bunch of asses? How much more of this sort of beligerent junk are you going to spew? And Todd, how much more are you going to put up with? (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Hey, your mileage may vary. (...) [Mommy, Mommy -- Richard won't play fair! Make him stop, Mommy!] ass (às) noun plural asses (às´îz) 1. Any of several hoofed mammals of the genus Equus, resembling and closely related to the horses but having (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Poindexter

Actually, I have a question for Todd. Is it possible to have the same cookie on my machine that lets me see or not see certain groups in the main page also let me not see any of Richard Marchetti's posts? I am half-kidding, but half not. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) Something equivalent to so-called killfiles popular in NNTP newsreaders? No, the web interface to the newsgroups doesn't support that fine-grained of filtering. --Todd (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Suzanne D. Rich

In lugnet.dear-lego, Mike Stanley writes: [...] (...) In case there's volume in numbers (of voices), I'd like to add mine in saying that the above describes my feelings as well. -Suz (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks

(...) I'm not 'personally offended', but a weekly or bi-weekly update would be *great*, even if it's a "nothing new to report" most times. Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) Me three. --Todd (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Going with what actually happened, what would you propose the manager have done that would qualify, in your book, as NOT underhanded or wrong? Post some silly "I'll have some stuff on sale tomorrow - call in and find out what it is" message (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Craig Livingston

(...) -------- Actually, the more I think about this, I do have a side. I originally said that since I did't care about the sets in question. I got caught up in the argument and I am sorry for that (not thinking completely through a response is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

(canceled) —Tom Stangl

(canceled) —Craig Livingston

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Johnston

(...) Larry gets "preorders" and you don't. Why? Because you don't spend Big Bucks. Same difference. (...) This has nothing to do with buying LEGO, or anything else except stocks. Larry isn't getting "insider information", he's getting a chance to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Insider Trading (Was: Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) I admittedly know very little about stock market stuff, so this is mean in the spirit of innocence - my flame proof suit is at the dry-cleaners.. I've just become curious about this "insider trading" law thingy - has the market ever operated (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !

Re: Insider Trading (Was: Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Albert Shikaze

Hello Richard: There is more to this than just manipulating stock prices. Existing and new shareholders have to have some comfort that they are been treated equitably and have confidence in the stock market. Capital stock markets are one of the ways (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

(canceled) —Tom Stangl

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Poindexter

(...) that (...) True, it is their job to pay attention to what fans want, but the bottom line DOES show that. Profit is a measure of consumer satisfaction. The fact is that what WE want is not necessarily what the majority of Lego consumers want. (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) I think its interesting that you feel the need to "retaliate" about something that is actually addressed "Dear-Lego" and concerns the manner in which TLC does business with us fans. You "few" guys are pretty reflexive about this point I am (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Johnston

(...) Richard, You're kidding, right? We're talking about a *very* limited quantity of sets. Catalog inserts? Those cost money and take plenty of time to make and stuff into the catalogs - and by the time they get out, the sets will probably be (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Aaron West

(...) Umm... I don't mean to intrude or to point out the obvious, BUT let's all be aware that Communism is NOT alive and well in Russia. This happened quite some time ago... And, by criminy, people bought some cool toys, I didn't get any, big fat (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Stembel

(...) Yes, Lego does own the Outlet Stores itself. Jeff (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) But you obviously do. I see Larry has responded a couple of times within this thread so I'll assume he's covered how wrong your thinking is here. If not I'll come back, and when I do, please keep in mind that I'm _not_ one of the (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) In lugnet.dear-lego, Mike Stanley writes: (...) Sheesh. Even if you were, I still don't care. My hypothetical was about outlet stores and TLC favoring the few when they could favor a greater number of persons. And I really don't resent it. I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) When the facts about how reality works are running against you, and you don't want to admit it, go with ad hominem, eh? As I pointed out in .debate, (1)(2) you're in good company. "slithers", "silverback preening", "virility"? I'm sensing a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Gary R. Istok

(...) This is one argument I am not getting involved in. Way too many "ad hominem" attacks against the person. But I will say (in an off handed compliment) that Larry is much nicer in person than in print. :-) I don't think you folks are going to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

(...) Hmm... my brain must be damaged (though a recent MRI came back "normal" - whatever that's supposed to mean), I started off disliking Larry and he talked me into liking him... (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz

(...) If you're talking about the first time around for these sets in the GA store (as opposed to the 2nd time round, or the stock that the VA store had), I would say there was not an unreasonable distribution of them. By the time I called to order (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Pawel Nazarewicz

(...) I will vouch for Frank in all matters;) I was on the receiving end of those two 8480s - a deal that he simply passed on to me while he could have made twice as much on e-bay. As cynical of a person as I am about certain people, the lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

(canceled) —Tom Stangl

Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) There really isn't any excuse resorting to offensive language. It is a hobby folks, if you're talking it so seriously that you feel the need to throw around insults (yes, I'm referring to everyone now), then maybe, just maybe you should take a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Tom Stangl

Richard, I really, truly, feel deeply sorry for your sheltered life. Seriously. If you can't take the phrase I used, your life must be filled with hundreds of disappointments a day. I only throw insults when I deem them warranted. And if you read (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) Please don't feel sorry for me - *I* am perfectly capable of making myself understood without resorting to certain words. Also, please understand that my disappointment is not in the words used (fairly trivial for everyday conversation), but (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Aaron West

(...) Second that. This is not appropriate for LUGNET. Arguements of this nature belong in other places. This is an abuse of freedom of speech and not what most of us pay membership dues for. Play well, and respect your peers please. Aaron (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Andrew Dowle

(...) you (...) statement (...) whatsoever. (...) I'm fairly new here, but was under the impression that this is a family site. Whatever context this phrase is used in, whether insulting to an individual or not, it IS offensive, and under the terms (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz

(...) Um, can I say pot calling the kettle black Richard? Here is a quote from one of your posts: richard marchetti wrote: (...) Now you have said publicly and privately that you don't have a beef with me, and are not indirectly implying anything (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) ^^^^^^ (...) ^^^...^^^ (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz

(...) Oops, sorry... This thing has gotten so jumbled, with too many people with the same first name, it's getting tough to keep track of who is saying what. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) I figured :) Does it matter more who says what, opposed to what is being said? I hope not, but you seemed to ignore the point that I made because you thought Richard Marchetti had said it? Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz

(...) Your point about the languange, no I don't ignore it (go look in lugnet.admin.general). You also do raise a good point that most of this discussion does belong in debate (though there is some bits which do relate to TLC, and there certainly is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

(canceled) —Mike Poindexter

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gloria Summers

(...) Oh, Please. ENOUGH! You people are embarrassing yourselves. I have been lurking here for quite a few months. There is a small group of people here who have the capacity to draw out these awful threads backing each other up and perpetuating the (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gary R. Istok

Sheeeeeese, you guys are riling up the "silent majority" on LUGNET!! Like I said before I ain't gonna take sides. Just put an end to it......... Gloria, I hate to use this forum, but I really want to change the subject. So I welcome you as a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard W. Schamus

In lugnet.dear-lego, Gary R. Istok writes: <snip> You don't get this kind of stuff on cable! :-) Good Call Gary (...) I'd love to know as well. (...) Rich -- Have Fun! C-Ya! Legoman34 ***** Legoman34 (Richard W. Schamus)... (No, I don't work for (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gloria Summers

(...) So I (...) what is (...) My specialty is collecting anything old and hard to find. That usually means doing most of my finding outside of the US. But I have found some great lots on eBay with old 60's and 70's sets. My collection covers quite (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Wow! Deja vu all over again. I think this is the second big debate where there has been Richard confusion. I think I did it before and I'm STILL sorry it happened. ++Lar (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) I dunno if you're talking about me, but if so - don't worry about it :) Maybe I should just change my name to Spontificus and be done with it. Although, that is remotely similar to Sproaticus! Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

(canceled) —Mike Poindexter

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks

(...) *sigh* I have better things to do with my time. I give up. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Mike Stanley

(...) Actually, I think I did it as well. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Its not about missing the deal, or who got what. I have stated this several times. My comments were about TLC policies or lack thereof and giving fans equal access to out of production stock. That's it. If you think this is about some (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Susan Hoover

(...) How is there any favoritism on the part of S@H? Anyone can call S@H herself at 7 am on Monday if she really wants to know what the specials are before Tom posts them to LUGNET. It probably takes more time to update the site than it does to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) I might have let that one get pretty vague. I was trying to suggest an internet model of business that serves an international customer base equally. I just didn't spell it out. -- Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Within the limitations of the business model (that is, people who choose to live in high tariff/high cost of doing business countries have to, unfortunately, suffer the consequences of their government's attempt to hide from reality) I think (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Peter Callaway

(...) Richard raises an interesting point, one which I hope the advent of LEGO Direct will adequately address. I've been geeting the irrits reading this particular debate (why hasn't it moved to .off-topic.debate yet?) with you guys complaining (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman

(...) This would be perfectly on-topic for .market.theory, BTW, as long as it's about TLC and how it affects the market and vice-versa. If it gets into more screaming and name-calling and away from LEGO then it's probably better in (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Purely a question of curiosity, what does "geeting the irrits" mean? Is it a OZism? I can guess from context and I ask because it seems a neat phrase. ++Lar (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Peter Callaway

(...) "Geeting the irrits" roughly translates to "my fingers are getting numb from too much typing and couldn't keep up with my brain, and my brain failed to register the typo". "Getting the irrits", well, I hope that clears it up. Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Powell

(...) Note: Larry has every right to buy any set he wants to in any quantity he wants to...if he can get 10,000,000 of a set, wants them and can pay for them, then that is _his_ business. Not yours. So, he happened to take the Nebula Outposts when (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Brown

(...) So, be constructive (like I'm trying to be... it's yet to see how successful I'll be). How would you suggest LEGO gives fans more equal access to stock, while being able to maintain their bottom line? I'm assuming no one here wants LEGO out of (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Do I have to connect all the lines for you to see the picture? The point of mentioning the Imperial Flagship S@H offer this week is to point out that S@H can and does handle warehouse finds/overstock items RIGHT NOW!!! Why TLC needs outlet (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks

(...) Pssst.. I think you are being too defensive Richard, James is one of the most fair and level people on LUGNET - if you reread his post, I think you'll see that he was trying to help you by asking for you to explain yourself further. Followups (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.market.theory)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Johnston

(...) S@H has at no time showed any favoritism other than "first come, first served". Why are you bringing them into this? (...) I think you're confusing S@H with the Outlet Stores. They are not the same thing at all. (...) Again, *what* favoritism? (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Interjections —Susan Hoover

(...) Why is it that I only see this word in newsgroups and email, or on the Scrabble board? I have never actually heard anyone utter this sound. FUT .o-t.fun for lack of a better place. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Interjections —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Is it really an interjection, without an exclamation point? ;) I say "feh" all the time--it's an old Groening-ism from "Life in Hell" for me, c.1983 or so. I don't know where else it comes from, but he had to get it from somewhere. best LFB (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Interjections —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) Feh. :-, I'm also prone to saying "oy vey"...as in "A crucifix? Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!" Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Interjections —Susan Hoover

(...) Doesn't count. It's still in print, not in my ear. Nyah, nyah! ;-P I think Lindsay (and why do I want to call him Leslie?) said it comes from "Life in Hell", which used to be better than it is now. Or maybe I'm thinking of Akbar and Jeff as (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti

(...) Aren't they both owned by TLC? And no, I am not confusing anything at all. I was suggesting a solution for TLC overstock -- whether it goes to the outlet store or to the S@H service is surely a matter of choice. I am hoping that in the future (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Sometimes, all you have to do is ask nicely and you find that people will make sure you get something you'd like but missed out on. Sometimes you don't even have to ask - they just offer, seeing the need. I've been on both sides of that sort (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Scott Edward Sanburn

(...) Yes, Indeed. Larry P. offered a straight sale on the Blue Hopper car that came out during our last "discussion" on items, I think this was from that one B store, I can't remember which. Anyway, I have one because of him, and I am grateful. I (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks

(...) Agreed - I've quoted this post before, but I think it illustrates your point too (URL). Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Scott Edward Sanburn

Richard, (...) Yes, Busy Bee, I remember that now. Thanks for the link! :) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard W. Schamus

(...) Well, how true that is. You know, it's just possible that someone out there might have a Nebula Outpost, (6899) that he got months ago, or even years ago, that has been just collecting dust in their homes, not because it was unwanted, but it (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Erik Olson

(...) Weird timing. Not too long ago I picked up armfuls of both of these sets on clearance at local stores ($5 for gobs of 6899 & $20 for a half dozen 6078.) I think I have one or two unopened stuffed in the top of the closet... (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Favoritism? Get a clue, pal. I stopped doing the S@H specials a while back because my job changed from being light in the morning to hectic and I couldn't put in the WORK of calling, collecting the data, making all the links, etc by hand (this (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Tom Stangl

(...) You have GOT to be the #1 jerk of Lugnet for the above comment. I bought ZERO of them. But you know what? I could have bought them all, and you'd have ZERO reason to whine. Why? Because you could have called in, just like me. I live in CA, (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Walsh

"RICHARD MARCHETTI" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:Fs5CLB.7xG@lugnet.com... [ ... snip ... ] (...) many (...) have (...) I (...) all (...) I have been to the Georgia Outlet store in person once and purchased over the phone twice. There (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley

(...) Ssssshhhhhhh! Silly facts like that don't work well with the "it isn't fair that the ELITE HAVES take all the Lego sets before we can get to them" conspiracy theory. :) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Kevin Loch

(...) Believe it or not, most of the stuff in the Outlet Stores walks out with non-Lugnet posting customers. The truth is that regular customers prefer the same sets we do for the same reasons. Take 100 regular customers and I bet 100 of them would (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Susan Hoover

I know this is yesterday's squabble, but I'm just now reading it, and moving my reply to .o-t.d. (...) I don't know Larry, have never met him, but this is not the impression I'm getting of him. The only impression I'm getting from reading this (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) Agreed. Granted, Larry is -- by his admission -- selfish, profit-driven, and a big spender. But he is most certainly not obnoxious. He is easily amongst the most polite, professional, and generous (1) people I have ever had business with. His (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Brown

(...) Yes. I sometimes (ok, often) find myself across the fence from Larry, because we have some differences of opinion at very fundemental levels. However, he rarely blows his top, is invariably fair (if opinionated), and cannot be remotely accused (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Matthew Teets

(...) I'll make a brief point with my problem with all this. When I found out about the Lego Outlet I found some rather rare sets and posted them to the web. Then I went back and did a complete inventory and posted everything to the web. I go to the (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Frank Filz

(...) I suggest you take your complaint to the store. Even if they can't change the policy of shipping within the state, they should at least be willing to let you reserve items to pick up within a week, and therefore should be able to call you (of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Craig Hamilton

(...) i too, live in georgia, 3 hours away, and can't place a phone order. by the time i had a friend in stone mountain drive over there, the sets i wanted were gone. i like it when lugnet members share and help one another, but not when things like (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Craig Livingston

(...) playing (...) on (...) would (...) Here! Here! I am also from GA. I see this practice as wrong for a number of reasons. But the main is that it completely penalizes Georgians. I have spent close to $500 in there since it has opened. Never at (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Mike Stanley

(...) Where does this "elitism" come from? You sound like you're mad that you're not getting picked to play football or that you're mad the popular girl won out over the nice girl for prom queen. It's the market. It's reality. All this whining is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Tom Stangl

(...) Matthew, There is a fix to this - when posting the sets they have, ask someone from outside of their "No Sale Zone" to get them for you. I would be happy to do so in the times my CC isn't already melting. (...) It really does SUCK that you (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Tom Stangl

(...) Oh HECK no, not as far as I am concerned ;-) Hence the smiley ;-) (...) And it really doesn't matter to me whether or not THEY called US, or WE called THEM. The fact is, whoever has the money at the time the set is available gets it, and it's (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —Frank Filz

From what various people have said, I think that the people who were called were the people they happened to have phone numbers handy, who happened to be near the phone when they called. I haven't ordered that much from them (just 10 6038s out of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !

Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool! —John Robert Blaze Kanehl

(...) I look forward to Lego deepening it's relationship w/ this community...I think it is a step in the right direction... I have a whole host of parts that I would like larger quantities of or in different colors... That said regarding the rest of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) !