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I don't know either of these people, but the fact that this discussion is being held out in the open for all of the LUGNET community to watch seems pretty immature to me. Sincerely, Aaron Muhl Lifetime Lego fan 5 Year LUGNET fan Not a fan of this (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Just to add my two cents in here. TLC is small-time in comparison to the big-time marketing we do ourselves. Think about it, we speculate on the next release in any given line, we spread around leaked photos of upcoming sets, when they start (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This is bad. Very, very bad. Suz, this is far more than anybody on lugnet needed to know. Nothing good is going to come from this. (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) As opposed to the "over-care" of the past decades? I think what you consider "lack of care" is actually the LEGO company realising that there are markets outside the US, and that if they don't stop being a US-centric company, they will end up (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Perhaps I am missing something here, but isn't this the kind of thing people are asking for? People want to know about new products. People want to have input into what is coming out. Brad and Jake provide this type of info in the posts cited. Sure (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Suzanne D. Rich writes: [some snippage here...] (...) Er...I tend to usually avoid these type of posts, and the debate column because I am usually outspoken, but I have to get a say here, and of course, I have a few questions. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Wow, I can barely stand the heat from this firestorm. Listen all, bottom line on this site is that it belongs to Todd and Suz, and they are fully entitled to do whatever they chose. It really does not matter what we users think or demand, ultimately (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Not anymore you don't. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't. I can only respond to what's been made public, and with this issue, a heck of a lot of it has been made public. (...) I can call for an apology because if I were in Jake's position, I would have been quite offended by Suz's post. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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And then you turn around and attack Suz personally, I think you should be banned also. All you really needed was your first paragraph.. Tamy (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: Even if you win, you're still retarded. (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I would argue that all of the following are examples of marketing messages: (7 URLs) isn't to say that it's abuse in any way. I think it's fine.) Let's just be clear that LEGO *is* indeed here to do direct-to-consumer _marketing_ and sales (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I just had to say something here. I know I'm not a very influencial person around lugnet, and I know I've made a few enemies here. I know that I've opened my mouth and caused a lot of problems here on lugnet, and if the current terms of use had been (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message news:GxpK80.59p@lugnet.com... <snip> (...) objectives (...) </snip> I've one answer to this unfair treatment: 3033 Duq (from europe) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I've just been reading the best part of this thread, and I must say I'm amazed.... Amazed at the lack of respect for 'The Community' and for The Lego Company. And amazed at the amount of patience from TLC. I honestly do not see why representatives (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I must say I am very disappointed. I knew Lugnet has been going downhill for some time, but this just confirmed my fears. When the administrator of the site engages in the same bickering that she comdemns that shows lack of proper leadership. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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While I don't know enough to comment on TLC presence at Lugnet, I can say if I got treated this way, I would shy away from posting/dealing with Lugnet too. One cannot treat folks in a hostile, suspicious manner and expect them to be overjoyed to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Suz, I'd appreciate an answer (too). --Bill. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) See if you can bend the ear of a reporter who deals with this sort of issue. LEGO prides themselves on great customer service, i.e. public relations. If LEGO is brought to task publically for this kind of behavior which so dramatically favors (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Todd, Dan, etc.: This user, "LUGNET Admin" <suz@lugnet.com> is engaging in personal attacks. Please disable her access until she is ready to apologize for this wholly inappropriate response. XFUT: lugnet.admin.general (Suz: You have lost the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general) !!
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(...) How is this any better than having the message appear in the other group? On the web interface, it looks the same - the list of messages in the thread, when viewed from the other group, includes the official LD message. If you allow this type (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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"LUGNET Admin" <suz@lugnet.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GxpBMz.4q4@lugnet.com... (...) You may be right, Suz, and you may be wrong... The way you've handled this doesn't seem very mature to me... The issue should have been kept in private e-mail, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think the initial intent was to keep from being "strongarmed" by Lego into actually being a real commercial force. IE, ad banners, ONLY pro-Lego propaganda (no flames on TLC's business decisions, etc, like juniorization qualms), etc. Also, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I meant that it seems, in retrospect, as though TLC has done so much taking and so little giving. That tends to makes me feel uneasy from time to time. (...) As I understand it, it has always been important to TLC that it not sponsor (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Todd, isn't the very existance of Lugnet a de facto advertisement for Lego, and isn't that a good thing? I mean, everyone here is a Lego consumer, by definition. AFOL: Adult Friend Of Lego. We all buy Legos. We all like building with Legos. We (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Hello, I'm wondering why it's not possible to let TLC post coloured if the topic is TLC-related (like announcements or official answers) and uncoloured (like we all) if the topic is normal discussion between us. This works fine at 1000steine.de, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This whole thread has gotten out of hand! This seems to be the point where the "public" communications fall apart. I don't wish to take sides, particularly where we're all assumed to be on the *same* side. For what it's worth, what I see here (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Perhaps so, but only because the representatives of the fandom have made it at times difficult to remain fans (of this particular interactive medium, at least). If Jake is truly worried that AFOL's will object to such LD comments as "we can't (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) As far as these types of things go, I think the response we've gotten from TLC is that Europe's just a better/more loyal consumer than North America. I remember (I think at BrickFest '01? Maybe a different time...) Brad talking about stores in (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'll stay out of the more heated portion of this and let Suzanne reply to the other stuff when she gets a free moment, but I can answer the above portion, at least from my personal viewpoint, by giving links to some previous posts: (4 URLs) (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) To all: this is my last post here, but I feel strongly that this has to be said. Please forgive my bluntness. Suz: I just wanted to say a personal thanks to you for singlehandedly driving the self-proclaimed "friendliest place on the internet" (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) I think that you two have been tremendously good at thinking into the future and setting things up right to avoid all kinds of potential pitfalls. But in this case, what harm could crop up that you could not remedy if you just let them post (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Interesting… How you presume to know the intricacy of the situation at hand between two individuals!?! And what is even more fascinating is how you endeavor to draw judgment and call for an “apology” from this individual. And all this regarding a (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) One thing I seen....is the apparent lack of "care" TLC has really put forth in north america. There still is a wide gaps in quality products between Europe and North America. Sure its nice to have 2 fulfillment centers, but why does one have (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) To Suz et All, I, as many of the members of the community, am thoroughly disappointed with your course of action, Suz. Infantile isn't descriptive enough of a word to talk about what you've just done. Not only have you shot yourself in the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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~O.K. now everyone’s overreacting! Lugnet is looking out for it’s best interests… Lego is looking out for it’s best interest… And I'm sure FBTB is doin’ the same thing too… But before anybody does anything rash lets just take a step back and reflect (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know that I personally harbor a fear of LUGNET becoming a platform for free advertising for TLC. I don't really know what harm would befall the community from that, but it seems somehow wrong. I don't know how to express this fear (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Why? I see no reason to differentiate between two people simply because one had the luck and skill to get a job at the same place we would all love to work for. It seems to me that an employee of Lego is more likely to be an AFOL than not, and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Jake, I'm glad to hear that. We're very interested in that as well. On the one hand, we want to keep the groups as pure and fan-to-fan as possible and remain true to that vision, but on the other hand, we want everyone to enjoy as close (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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(...) I am disappointed in you, Suz. Your post was rude and uncalled for, and Jake deserves an apology. It is also a prime example of why the level of interaction between the community and Lego has dropped recently. How can you expect anyone to post (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I have mixed feelings about this whole thread, but the one person that comes closest to expressing views I can agree with is Ben. I do think there is a gap that does and probably should exist between "fans" and an official company person. I think (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Sad. To see the supposed 'Center of the LEGO Online Community' adopt such tactics and immaturity over an issue that should have been dealt with in email in the first place shows one thing clearly to me: Everyone who has been telling me that LUGNET (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars) !
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(...) Suzanne - As someone who has worked with Jake on many occasions, I find this post gravely offensive and an uncalled for personal attack. In all my experience with him, before and after taking the position at LEGO Direct, he has been nothing (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't know Suz.... It seems like it wouldn't take much for TLC to return to their activity level in the early days of LUGNET, ei. no communication back to the community. In the early days we knew that TLC employees were reading our posts and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) We tried. Several times. We've talked with a number of different people. It is apparently their policy that small shops NEVER get backorders filled, even if the reason for the backorder is a mistake on their part. I have no problem with "no (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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ouch. I saw this and was so appalled I just had to reply. I don't know Jake, but to see Suzanne make assumptions about his character and his motivations is shocking. The tenor of Jake's verbage is clear and professional. By contrast, the tenor of (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes: [...] (...) Thank you, Jake. I just wanted to confirm my suspicion.[1] Such a lack of maturity from one who's actions reflect on The LEGO Company is very disappointing. But, your 'using' of this community is (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) you (...) Couldn't agree more... (...) [SNIP] (...) numerous requests to change this policy (...) After so many postings have been asking for that change, I just wanted to give my vote for the 'status quo'. TLC can never be part of the AFOL (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No problems! Thanks for your response! [snip] (...) One suggestion I'd make - to respond to such questions, please just create a new thread in .lego.direct, referencing the original post (and quoting any pertinent text to make things clearer (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes: (snip) Just a few things I wanted to express... First off, I have extreme respect and appreciation for what the Lugnet administrators have done. I'm sure the job is a thakless one, and I wanted you all to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake - Excellent response. I believe this helps us all understand a bit more where LEGO Direct is coming from. I sincerely hope the LUGNET administrators revisit the policy towards limiting official posts to just one newsgroup heirarchy. I believe (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) "Next year, we hope to give you at least one opportunity to vote -- from a short list of candidates -- for the Legend set you'd like to see us make. When we post the contenders we'll be specific about any changes we'll have to make from the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake, Thanx for a well thought out response. I hope this is the beginning of what everybody is looking for! I also hope Admin (aka Suz) makes the necessary changes to support this. (assuming this is what she is looking for) Can we all just get (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hear, hear! Matt (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Suzanne D. Rich writes: Suzanne (and All), Sorry about the delay in responding. I have been swamped this week, and wanted to run a few things past a few people, Brad especially (who is out of the office on a trans-European (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) I don't know about that. After seeing Lego's lastest offering, it seems that the clone brands are where they're getting ideas now. Ha ha, only serious. Ben Roller P.S. Ok, I need some advice here. At this point I'm not intending to talk to TLC (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Suz: Is their absence especially irritating because they have used references to Lugnet for certain marketing practices (like the Mania Magazine, I think it was), and that probably without permission? So they trade on the Lugnet name but don't (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) But Lego Direct didn't leap onto LUGNET willy-nilly without first having reviewed the types of discussions that go on here. Anyone (and certainly an outreaching department of a multi-billion dollar company) could have predicted the way that (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Current policy already allows this. Jake, for instance, is using his unofficial account right now. And conversations similar to the recent '20 Questions' have always been allowed on LUGNET. LEGO employees are welcome everywhere on LUGNET. The (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Very good points, Jeff. I wasn't going to hop in on this thread myself to be totally honest. It disturbs me in many ways. But at this point, I have something I really want to get out. The attitude posters and administrators on this site (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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I think it is precisly these types of posts that keep them away. Many people post expecting answers *right now*, often on things they may not be able to respond to. I think everyone needs to give them some breathing room. I also think they should be (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake, I'd appreciate an answer. -Suz Suzanne Rich LUGNET Admin www.lugnet.com (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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quite shocking considering how liberal and helpful their S@H Customer Service is. why the same practice and consideration isn't true for their retail shops is beyond me. of course this could be an isolated case. have you tried calling back and (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Whereas jelly beans tend to be eaten shortly, LEGO bricks last a long time. I can see that LEGO don't want the market to be filled with discoloured LEGO bricks. It cannot be good for their reputation if images of discoloured bricks becomes (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The Jelly Belly factory in our area puts their malformed jelly beans in 1 lb. bags and sells them as "Belly Flops" in their factory store-- for about half price! They taste just as good only you can't choose the flavors-- so all the bags (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This would be a great item for LD's auctions. If they had ten lots, each one pound of swirled elements, I bet they could fetch pretty good money...maybe mine. Chris (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Supply and demand? If people are interested in buying them, and there are few items available, it's only natural to see a high price point. It's like stamp of coin collection, I suppose. Stamps and coins which are produced with some kind of (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Why on earth are you asking them to sell them for such INSANE prices? It's not as if regular bricks are cheap through bulk. You do realize those mottled bricks are "trash" as far as Lego is concerned, right? They either throw them out or grind them (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Dear Lego and LD, These are the neatest pieces. I have heard of them many times but necer seen them until now, and man, how cool! I could foresee pack of 25 random mottled bricks for sale as a nostalgia pack, maybe $10. Other neat ways of selling (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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All I really have to add here (since the initial thread isn't my place to answer) is a reply to the notion that I run a site for kids - last time I checked FBTB viewership was 3/4 adult with an average age of 24. We do have quite a few kids in the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Hi all. As some of you know, I recently went to work for a small educational toy shop in North Seattle. I actually found the job thanks to LEGO! The owner was considering starting to carry LEGO, and was at a SeaLUG meeting. Well, it took quite some (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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(...) First of all, divide the company into it's respective divisions. Even though we refer to Lego as one company, it's divisions aren't necessarily managed as one company. Lego Direct is a distinct entity from the Lego Stores, etc. (It wouldn't (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) As a regular poster both here and on FBTB (I know, Ahui, you regularly read FBTB too) I would disagree with the premise that Lugnet is for adults and FBTB for children. I recently posted a poll over there as to whether people preferred (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'd disagree. I think we've seen a lot in the last couple of years that indicates that Lego is reaching out to the AFOL market. Bulk ordering, Sculptures, Legends, specials like the Super Chief and the Rebel Blockade Runner, involvement with (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Look up the definition of toy (a thing of little importance, trifle). Even if we limit the discussion of Lego items to children, this definition is far from adequate considering the educational value the items provide. Lego items are a (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I don't necessarily disagree with anything Kerry said either. I guess the point is to drop the pretense that a dialogue exists -- if TLC/Lego Direct people post here at all it is 99% certain that it is strictly for the purpose of furthering some (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I dunno, but I don't think it's too inappropriate: (URL)There really is no reason that it should "go with the territory"... FBTB (...) I don't know, I don't frequent the FBTB forums too often. I don't have a feel for FBTB readers. We're acting (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Who knows, maybe the quiet from Lego Direct has nothing to do with real or imagined friction from AFOL's, restrictive posting policies on LUGNET, pestering questions about the product lines and corporate policy, etc. I just figured they have been (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I think LD are often silent for some fairly obvious reasons. Firstly, we LUGnetters don't seem to agree on too many things, so I don't think we send very clear messages about what we want to Lego Direct. Some people want more re-releases of Classic (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) After watching this count down 2 days left, 1 , 0 , -1, -2, -3 it now says "5 days left". At least someone at Lego appears to have noticed, took them long enough! Deidre drb@tasmail.com (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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What Jim has stated was done so perfectly that it doesn't need any "me too"s, but here is my total agreement with his words anyway. And I think that the administrative reasons for creating this newsgroup and also limiting official TLC access to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) There is a big difference between _saying_ they can't answer a particular question and not responding at all. It's the "not responding at all" bit that seems to cause a lot of the grief here on Lugnet. Deidre drb@tasmail.com (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) WOW... and then I wonder why Lego only post 'marketing-related' stuff here (lugnet). We (adults) can WORSE than the kids on FBTB. Over there when LD says it can't answer, the general felling is okay we understand. Here, if Lego doesn't answer (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'll take that bet... how much did you want to lose? (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) --- (...) All good and valid points, but I do understand and sympathies with Suz. Because it really seams as though LD is simply using Lugnet as a marketing forum to test their products and promote their objectives. I may be new, but it didn’t (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think the reason Jake is more apt to respond to the questions on FBTB is due to the nature of that forum: it's like a reading time for the children where he is treated like Superman. The preadolescents dote on Jake. Also, from my observation of (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Isn't it against the rules to do so, though? Or is it just against the rules for Jake to ask in his post that someone do it but OK if someone figures out that it needs doing on their own? I'm admittedly confused about it. (...) There really is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think you're right. Besides, quite often when someone from TLC posts something important, it's quickly forwarded to the appropriate groups (if necessary) by Lugnet readers. It's also nice to know that all posts from TLC's employees (about (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Jeff Stembel" <aulddragon@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:Gx9EIE.L17@lugnet.com... (...) about (...) official (...) anywhere, I (...) absolute (...) complaining (...) so (...) then (...) face by (...) forum (...) forums, (...) love to (...) (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) In my opinion this is the key point moreso then limiting where TLC employees can post. I can understand the limits. I believe it was established so that it could be determinied if a person was posting AS an employee of TLC opposed to just (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I really have to agree, limiting where they can post was one of the absolute most unwise policies instituted here. It makes the newsgroups extremely unwelcome to Lego representatives, and why would we do this after complaining quite vocally (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Rudy writes: [snipped,] [source message] (...) I guess I'll third Tamy here... This is an interesting situation, butnot one that seems to be overly long and complex. In simplicity, I think there's one soultion to this (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I'll second Tamy here. LUGNET has become downright beligerent in it's treatment of TLG Staffers. Restriction is unfair, and tantamount to segregation. "You work at LEGO, so you can only use these drinking fountains..." This isn't fair to TLG or the (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Not to be nasty, though if I were LD or Lego, I'd be a little miffed about being controlled as to where we can post.. and only able to post from official Lego addresses.. and if FBTB is giving them free access to answer anywhere, I don't blame them (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake, Why are you answering people's questions on FBTB, but not LUGNET? I ask because the lugnet.lego.direct group was created for open dialogue, yet LD's posts are now rare and limited to marketing announcements. -Suz Suzanne Rich LUGNET Admin (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) Yes, Same to U.S. I tried to open the account with LEGO for my business retail online store, but not meet their requirement quality and policy. You can allow online sales, but must have least 30 storefront in 3 different zone (ie: Southeast, (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) There are more than just soccer moms who refuse to shop there. (...) Sure there is - help make it worthwhile for LEGO to cater to the smaller retailers. If you can afford it (and I suspect a good portion of the online community can), spend the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Meanwhile in Europe... 1) Distribution to independant stores. In the Netherlands most toy stores belong to a few chains. One of the few left independant store owners alwys complains when I talk to him, about how LEGO can't deliver in time, in (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I Know TRU's do not get their stock directly. Everything TRU sells first goes to a central wherehouse and is distributed by truck to each store from there. So maybe thats why there is a delay? But I always hear of new sets at Wal Mart long (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I've always been of the belief that just because something *is* a certain way, doesn't mean that it has to stay that way. I find it tough to accept that the LEGO company would allow themselves to be seen in this light. I heard a similar story (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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