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Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
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Date: 
Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:13:46 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes: [...]
Why am I not answering questions on LUGNET?

Most questions of LEGO actually get asked outside of lego.direct. Since I
can't answer those questions "officially" and I'm not sure what the
appropriate method of cross linking the answer with the question, I feel
uncomfortable posting about that issue out of context. I would absolutely
love if I could, along with other LD employees, post directly to a question
with a few brief lines to answer a question in context. Unfortunately,
LUGNET prohibits this.

[...]
Jake

---
Jake McKee
Senior Producer
LEGO Direct

Thank you, Jake.
I just wanted to confirm my suspicion.[1]

Such a lack of maturity from one who's actions reflect on The LEGO Company
is very disappointing. But, your 'using' of this community is inexcusable.

-Suz
LUGNET Admin

[1] Since our last phone conversation a few months ago, in which Jake again
asked for sitewide posting and I answered in the negative, he has been
giving this entire community the 'silent treatment' in hopes to 'get his way.'



Message has 20 Replies:
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
ouch. I saw this and was so appalled I just had to reply. I don't know Jake, but to see Suzanne make assumptions about his character and his motivations is shocking. The tenor of Jake's verbage is clear and professional. By contrast, the tenor of (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) I don't know Suz.... It seems like it wouldn't take much for TLC to return to their activity level in the early days of LUGNET, ei. no communication back to the community. In the early days we knew that TLC employees were reading our posts and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) Suzanne - As someone who has worked with Jake on many occasions, I find this post gravely offensive and an uncalled for personal attack. In all my experience with him, before and after taking the position at LEGO Direct, he has been nothing (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)  
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
Sad. To see the supposed 'Center of the LEGO Online Community' adopt such tactics and immaturity over an issue that should have been dealt with in email in the first place shows one thing clearly to me: Everyone who has been telling me that LUGNET (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars) ! 
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
I have mixed feelings about this whole thread, but the one person that comes closest to expressing views I can agree with is Ben. I do think there is a gap that does and probably should exist between "fans" and an official company person. I think (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) I am disappointed in you, Suz. Your post was rude and uncalled for, and Jake deserves an apology. It is also a prime example of why the level of interaction between the community and Lego has dropped recently. How can you expect anyone to post (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)  
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) To Suz et All, I, as many of the members of the community, am thoroughly disappointed with your course of action, Suz. Infantile isn't descriptive enough of a word to talk about what you've just done. Not only have you shot yourself in the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) To all: this is my last post here, but I feel strongly that this has to be said. Please forgive my bluntness. Suz: I just wanted to say a personal thanks to you for singlehandedly driving the self-proclaimed "friendliest place on the internet" (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !! 
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) This whole thread has gotten out of hand! This seems to be the point where the "public" communications fall apart. I don't wish to take sides, particularly where we're all assumed to be on the *same* side. For what it's worth, what I see here (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
"LUGNET Admin" <suz@lugnet.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GxpBMz.4q4@lugnet.com... (...) You may be right, Suz, and you may be wrong... The way you've handled this doesn't seem very mature to me... The issue should have been kept in private e-mail, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Terms of Use violation (was Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?)
 
Todd, Dan, etc.: This user, "LUGNET Admin" <suz@lugnet.com> is engaging in personal attacks. Please disable her access until she is ready to apologize for this wholly inappropriate response. XFUT: lugnet.admin.general (Suz: You have lost the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general) !! 
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
While I don't know enough to comment on TLC presence at Lugnet, I can say if I got treated this way, I would shy away from posting/dealing with Lugnet too. One cannot treat folks in a hostile, suspicious manner and expect them to be overjoyed to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
I must say I am very disappointed. I knew Lugnet has been going downhill for some time, but this just confirmed my fears. When the administrator of the site engages in the same bickering that she comdemns that shows lack of proper leadership. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
I just had to say something here. I know I'm not a very influencial person around lugnet, and I know I've made a few enemies here. I know that I've opened my mouth and caused a lot of problems here on lugnet, and if the current terms of use had been (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: Even if you win, you're still retarded. (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
Wow, I can barely stand the heat from this firestorm. Listen all, bottom line on this site is that it belongs to Todd and Suz, and they are fully entitled to do whatever they chose. It really does not matter what we users think or demand, ultimately (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)  
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
In lugnet.lego.direct, Suzanne D. Rich writes: [some snippage here...] (...) Er...I tend to usually avoid these type of posts, and the debate column because I am usually outspoken, but I have to get a say here, and of course, I have a few questions. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) This is bad. Very, very bad. Suz, this is far more than anybody on lugnet needed to know. Nothing good is going to come from this. (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
I don't know either of these people, but the fact that this discussion is being held out in the open for all of the LUGNET community to watch seems pretty immature to me. Sincerely, Aaron Muhl Lifetime Lego fan 5 Year LUGNET fan Not a fan of this (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
(...) I know it's your playhouse and you can do how you choose, but you are not being a very good host with responses such as this Suz. You really should follow the posting proceedures regarding comments of this nature and send email to Jake if this (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)

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  Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
 
In lugnet.lego.direct, Suzanne D. Rich writes: Suzanne (and All), Sorry about the delay in responding. I have been swamped this week, and wanted to run a few things past a few people, Brad especially (who is out of the office on a trans-European (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !! 

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