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Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup?
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Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:18:57 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Benjamin Medinets writes:
> >
> > Two years ago, LD made a cash donation to LUGNET. Brad projected high hopes
> > for there being additional donations in the future. I personally would feel
> > a lot more comfortable with TLC's long-term expanded presence here if it was
> > demonstrably interested some sort of ongoing financial support. Brad's
> > excellent t-shirt idea[1] also seems to have been all but forgotten about at
> > TLC. It's too easy for me to hear ideas like this and have high expectations.
> >
> > --Todd
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> > [1] http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=863
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> Intersting points, Todd.
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> One thing I seen....is the apparent lack of "care" TLC has really put forth
> in north america.
As opposed to the "over-care" of the past decades? I think what you consider
"lack of care" is actually the LEGO company realising that there are markets
outside the US, and that if they don't stop being a US-centric company, they
will end up with a VERY small customer base...and in one or two countries.
After all, MegaBlocks are coming out with a larger range, good models, and
more importantly, decent prices...and they're not the only company making
similar products.
> There still is a wide gaps in quality products between Europe and North
> America. Sure its nice to have 2 fulfillment centers, but why does one
> have nice things, especially non-lego Lego-Branded items (Europe - as in
> cool brick-style lunchpails, Cargo Systems, and nice Black, LEGO Polo Shirts
> ...vs North America - various current or recent theme t-shirts)
And then there's the rest of the world, which until last year had access to
a considerably small line of sets, no t-shirts/other lego items, higher
prices, and no sign from our local LEGO distributors that they had any
intention of making changes...And the only thing that has changed is that a
couple of these other countries can now buy directly from the LEGO group
on-line at prices above the highest store prices (for sets) and pay an
exceedingly large postage amount. Also, up till a few years ago, America was
getting quite a few sets that were no-where else in the world. [I'd like to
see LEGO allow further countries access to on0line orders, as well as
providing a flat range around the world, with no special sets/offers to
individual countries/markets...but I doubt this will ever happen as certain
countries like to complain about losing "market focus".]
> Plus, the whole service pack issue...is very upsetting to me...how there
> are packs available but only in Europe. The company is supposed to be
> worldwide, but it seems they really not looking to achieve their objectives
> as the key world toy brand by 2003.
Oh no...America isn't getting what they want...now you may know what it is
like in some countries/has been like in some countries for YEARS.
And just remember, no matter how much you want to believe it, the world is
NOT the US...and this attitude of "you have to do what we want" is exactly
why the US isn't the most popular country around the world...try considering
how you would feel in another country that doesn't have what you currently
have, and you'll see that there is more emphasis required AWAY from the US
to help them meet their target.
> I would feel more sympathy for the company, but really I have to agree...
> it is already has its say on how it wants to conduct business. Why should
> Lugnet bend over backwards to please them already. Membership on Lugnet
> is one thing, but ownership is another. If LEGO really wanted to dictate
> how it wanted it to do business on LUGNET, all it had to do was maintain
> its donations.
>
> As far as Lugnet going downhill, that really is in how you approach the
> situation. If you sit back and generally complain, you will feel that it
> is going downhill, because you contributed to it negatively. If you get
> involved, even 5 to 10 percent (and all of it positive), you will find that
> the community will get better.
>
> Just my input....
>
> Benjamin Medinets
Benjamin Whytcross
[who's sick of those who have been priveleged in the past to get lots of
items complaining about 'missing out' because they now are starting to see
what every-one else had to endure in the past...though there's still a long
way to go till they get there...]
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| (...) Well that is one approach to looking at it...yes for several...errr... many years North America (US and Canada) was spoiled. I'll have to agree somewhat to the approach you are taking. I don't disagree with a world point of view. My qualms is (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| (...) One thing I seen....is the apparent lack of "care" TLC has really put forth in north america. There still is a wide gaps in quality products between Europe and North America. Sure its nice to have 2 fulfillment centers, but why does one have (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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