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(...) I like the format of lugnet.lego.foo only for official postings, with automagic duplication into lugnet.lego.foo.d (iscussion) because I think it is more clear than anything else would be. But then you have a .lego.* group that we're al (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: A letter to Todd
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(...) <snip everything> (...) Plesae note the title of this post, if you feel one way, great - but please post it on another thread. The vast majority of your post had nothing to do with anything in my post. And it was not an open letter. There is (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(coming out of the cave hearing all the nose going on Lugnet....sheesh taking a step outside smelling the roses...seeing the LEGO private jet taken off back to Bilund ) This is my second post to lugnet ever since LUGNET came online. Besides the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I can't speak for the "majority of us", but I for one do not see how you could assume that the majority of the lugnet community believes that what Todd has done is wrong. Personally, when things are agreeable to me, I speak very little of it. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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One time I kinda complained to TLC, I was a little concerned that when you are recieving the Mania Magazine, it is all Adverts and hardly any MOC's, what's the point of this except as a way to generate more hype and previews! That's ok with me but, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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I'm weighing in here on Frank's post because I think he's onto some good ideas. I think Todd is on to some good ideas, too, and here's why I think so. The beauty of .lego.direct is that it is a place where we *know* TLC (LD) is listening. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) That sounds about right to me. (...) Whoops, wait...I need to interject something: I agree with you that not everything we might hear from TLC is marketing. However, it's all part of the _marketing strategy_, including the fact that AFOLs were (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Good idea Frank. Have you seen this post? (URL) hope Todd can sort out the multiple identity crisis so there's less of this messiness. --DaveL (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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me, for one, would like better commuctaion to legos people. id suggest some things to be added to bulk, like wings, etc and add pick your own color for bulk ie: 100 clear 1x8 even if would add to price tag. one thing would be very nice, make all (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) I'd recommend lugnet.lego.shop.announce (or just lugnet.lego.shop - though that might invite discussion about LEGO shopping avenues. Hmm, I just had an idea. Set one or more lugnet.lego.xyz.announce groups, which only TLC can post to. Then (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Fw: Re: Bionicle.com has been updated!!!
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(...) Well, lets see, I sailed, I dove, I rescued a VCillage, and I saw Gali kick some ass! This keeps getting better n better! (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You certainly don't know that the vast majority feel that way. You know that about 10 to 12 highly vocal people are complaining and about 4 or 5 generally quieter people are agreeing. (...) Now as in the moment -- not now as in going forward. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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I'd like to extract one issue from the "LEGO and its Fans" thread. How do we, the fan community, want to interact with TLC? And in what ways can TLC, or parts of TLC, interact with the fan community? Some background, for those disinclined to throw (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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ME TOO. The more postings from Lego employees anywhere on lugnet the better. Their signal to noise ratio is unusually good. (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Fw: Re: Bionicle.com has been updated!!!
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And there we go, another posting from me! You'll wonder: "That guy again??? You can rest easy, I actually didn't want to post here now, but some unfortune AFOL whose employer is sadly called "LEGO" was not able to post here in this newsgroup, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Mark, in the future when you misquote me and completely mischaracterize what I said and meant, I would really appreciate it if you would be courteous enough to provide a link to what I actually said. For example: (URL) I said was that it is "a (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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| | A letter to Todd
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Todd, Let me start off by saying I respect all the work and effort you have put into creating this site, it truly is a great site, and I DO love your site! I have from the first time I came here, nothing will change that. And I know this is your (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Tom, 1) This doesn't relegate anyone to "second class citizenship." 2) If this had been done one year ago, at a time when Brad was the only LEGO employee posting here (and posting to .dear-lego and .lego.direct only), I guarantee you that not (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Exactly. The ultimate tipping point was the Bionicle thread on Thursday, but the tipping point isn't really relevant. Rather, it was a sudden realization based on recent events (not the events themselves) that we'd totally forgotten to put (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) "Yesterday" in this context is wednesday last, I think, as the filter was put in place Thursday, I think. I know for a fact that the train contest reminder was posted after the filter was put in place, based on correspondence. I speculate it (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) True. We don't know the actual number of agree/disagree/undecided. Probably never will. My gut tells me more disagree, though, at least for now. Yours may differ. (people tend to think others agree with them) But irrelevant, ultimately. It's (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) done to LEGO employees posting with their LEGO account, as far as I can see. I was interested in learning what "yesterday's event" was, which apparently triggered the above change. (...) So if I understand this correctly, the announcement of (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) I would not go assuming that. Just because the "vocal majority" does not like this right now does not mean that only 3 people agree with Todd. Remember one of the dynamics of Newsgroups is that people that disagree with a situation are much (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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I can say this - if Todd continues to make this a less and less friendly place to be (and relegating AFOLs that happen to work for TLG to Second Class Citizenship IS less friendly, not to mention asinine), if TLG does an endrun around LUGNET, I'll (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hmm, looks like Todd started to change his mind... Actually, if nothing else changes, I would lobby very strongly for TLC being able to make announcements in lugnet.announce.lsahs. What would be really cool is if they started posting the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) OK, so this makes what - 3 people that *understand* this? Compared to the vast majority that do not *applaud* this action, hmmm. (...) So that makes this an un-official post and should we disregard it? You have *no* official capicity here in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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I've been skimming the posts about this issue, and maybe I'm missing the point, but it seems to me that if LEGO didn't want its people posting on lugnet, they woud take care of that at lego. Often you hear about people workgin at such-and-such and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem like that big a deal to change your e-mail address back and forth to indicate official vs personal. It's just as easy to do that as to include a disclaimer when posting personal items. But, truthfully, I (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) But, they are different than most. Their work life and home life (assuming they are AFOLs) coincide. I guess I've been on the other side. In the last two jobs I've had, one of my employeement conditions was that I not use my work e-mail in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) I don't think anyone has any issues with the desire to be clear about whether a post is personal opinion or an Offical Statement. But that can easily be done without restricting where posting happens, and in fact WAS being done, the T&C (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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"Mike Faunce" <mike@faunce.com> wrote in message news:GABnBu.GK5@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] When I first participated in LUGNET I did use my work e-mail. I started using a different e-mail address because all (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) To further your own analogy: Why don't you use your work e-mail here? Probably because LUGNET is part of your "home life" and not your "work life". Your employeer may (or may not) want their name associated with LUGNET. Your employeer may even (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: LEGO Bionicle special offer
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(...) the (...) information (...) This will be successful, my local shops have sold out on the Bionicles and seem to be in big demand.. Looks like its going to kill POKEMON - DIE DIE, i hate those little monsters...... And shops are having a hard (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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Wooohoooo! Thanks Tomas! I am just done with drooling over that entire "official vs. unofficial" thread and was really scared of the possible vanish this may cause. And now you have pleased me soooo much with this extremely interesting news, THANKS (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | Re: ME TOO
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(...) I have to put in a hearty 'mee too' with you, Christian. (...) Its lost value for me too. I prefer open communication, and not every post of theirs at a lego.com address outside of lego.* groups can be considered a marketing agenda. Give me a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Just to get my "vote" in, I want to say a "me too" to this as well. I believe it is not in my best interest to have this restriction in place. I think we should hear other (more) people's feelings on this as well. It is interesting that the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general)
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Here's a snippet from Todd's original post: (...) Something that Lego (TLC) did "made it apparent" that these boundaries needed to be reclarified. Well, no one in this thread, except Todd and maybe someone from TLC, knows what horrible thing (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Usually, I am not the buy who steps in for a "mee too" (as this is mostly useless On Lugnet when talking about MOCs or new products. However, as this is a really important subject for the entire philosophy of Lugnet, I had to emphasize Mikes (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) I just called LEGO Shop at Home and the rep who answered told me that the special offer in question is available to anyone, not just members of the LEGO Club. (...) feel I should point out that they're a little bit confused about which LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) So, Can we all take a look at the study you have done on all lego employees? I have yet to see any examples of how they clutter, dilute or otherwise do anything negative in any way. Jake is a fan, if I am not mistaken he is a member of Lugnet. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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There seems to be some issue here. The Eric's (two of them) have posted elsewhere, and have been found to 'get it' by the admin-fig. The presence of TLC on lugnet has had some 'minor' positive effects. One case in point, that I doubt would have (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I just thought I'd point out Mike's post as something to consider. Mike has repeatedly mentioned to me that he likes to just stay clear of the pissing matches (which this could turn out to be one of the larger ones). I will contradict one (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Well of your two choices I would say it's broken. Although I don't totally agree with that statement. Here is more info on Netscape 6... (URL) (...) Remember I am Eric, not Eric. I know its hard to tell the difference. Maybe I should adopt a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Kingsley writes: <snip NS 6 multiple identity info> Thanks for digging. Did you evaluate whether it shares "which threads and which messages have been read" across "identities"? If it does, it's broken and needs to be (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) I know this isn't perfect but I would lit to make a suggestion. First changing setups for the web interface is a PITA, I agree with Larry on that. I did just try something using NNTP using Netscape 6 however that makes it very easy to do. In (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Have you actually tried this process to see what a PITA it is? I suspect not. Once you try it, consider what it would be like to have to do it several times a day or more. I doubt you've considered that either. Computers *exist* to make things (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) First, welcome to LUGNET!!! We really are a friendly bunch most of the time :-). As for your question I think I would say it is highly unlikely a vote would happen. LUGNET is privately owned by Todd Lehman and Suzanne Rich which means what (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Well I may be mistaken but I think that Todd and Suz may feel a bit betrayed by LD. The one example that comes to mind is the T-Shirt Thread. (URL) a few months later got to this response from LD: (URL) I think Got Suzanne upset: (URL) you (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Why do Lego rip off UK customers ?
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Not only that, Its getting v. difficult to get Lego in the UK now. Big stores only stock a few lines. Why do the Americans get privaliged sets. Does it cost to much to release the same set in the US and Europe. why do I have to import (castle) sets (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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Just to add another point: I don't usually read LUGNET postings off the web site, but get some of the groups as daily email digests. I like seeing announcements for limited items at LSAHS in the market newsgroup. But now, I will never see these (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdae6mnom2.fsf....uio.no... (...) Take a day off and a brew-ha-ha erupts! I just read through the thread using this link: (URL) prefer a news reader interface but don't (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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I'm quite new to the Lugnet community so I'm not up on structure and procedure, (I didn't know Lego were active participents) but this is obviously a topic that has got a lot of people going. would a vote be possible in a case like this where (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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I am as bewildered as anyone else here..... I thought that there wasn't enough interaction between LD and LUGNET as it is. And I certainly would like someplace within LUGNET where we (LUGNET folks) could interact freely with TLC in a total forum, (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) theme (...) I'm certainly confused. A few months ago people were citing the Cluetrain Manifesto and begging for LEGO to talk to us. Now we want to box them into one little space on LUGNET because all LEGO wants is (gasp!) money. I certainly (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: an idea for lego: A set design contest
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If they would put the designers name on it, I think it might get folks to be more willing to submit some of their best designs. I think that sometimes recognition is as important an enticement as monetary rewards would be. Gary Istok (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Well, if that's the case, them I'm being ignored for wanting to give money away, too ;-) Or, at least, to get Todd to collect that 50$ I sent him half a year ago.... (...) Regards, Hakan (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) That's a curious way of phrasing it. I'll assume you just chose poorly. But to clarify, this wasn't a suggestion I made, or in any way my idea- it took me as much by surprise as everyone else. I just happen to think it was a *good* idea. So, (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) As the other Eric posting to this thread, I can say that I certainly don't want LEGO to go away, either! I'm very glad they want to participate in Lugnet, and I'm very happy that they want to announce special deals and sales... but I'm also (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Sorry Todd, but you seem to say that in a negative tone and I don't see a reason for that! We all know that LEGO is a company and therefor wants to make money [1]. But what's wrong with that? Remember that LU(gnet) is a place for LEGO USERS so (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Could you please point in the direction of "yesterday's events"? I think I missed it, and I would like to see just what is being discussed here. Thanks, Fredrik (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Nothing really in particular. Yesterday's events were certainly a catalyst, however. (...) I filled out the news-posting setup form... (URL) for each of my email addresses, and then I change the setup in my newsreader (and then back again) if (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This is a little ironic. For years the community tried to get TLC involved and to participate and now it's trying to keep them out. There has to be a reason for this which we (the end-users of Lugnet) will most likely never know. I sort of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) (URL) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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Yep, its a me too post. I couldn't have said it better than Frank. I think that stuff like S@H announcements, and the DYA example, suggests a double standard. Unless, I am misunderstanding something... -Tim Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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First, I want to say I may regret replying to this post, I see everybody has left it alone so far - its kinda scary being the one breaking the ice, lol. In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) I personally do not think they would (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) But still, they are not trying to sell us anything - and they do not have to try to sell us anything, we buy Lego no matter what. this goes to whats below also. (...) Do you want them to go bankrupt? I know it will never happen - That is the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) So you would prefer to hear about the Fort Legoredo's from some AFOL posting that he just found out that S@H got a bunch in and he just bought them all? What is different from Brad telling us "hey Shop at Home got this pile of nice sets" and a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) That explicit statement may have been Mark's straw man rather than a real statement, but I got that implication from things that have been said here. (...) One man's trash is another man's treasure. I didn't see all of those posts as clutter. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) A very brief response -- I'm still digesting all this. I agree concerning contests, sale items etc. I think the matter of the Bionicle masks is a little different. Tomas Clark responded to direct questions/speculation from fans. This was (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) No one said that they cluttered up threads. They do have the ability to clutter up newsgroups, however: (URL) posts to lugnet.general and lugnet.dear-lego. I'd rather not have to wade through these kinds of posts to see MOCs, etc. eric (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) I think Todd explained things pretty well here: (URL) if you want my *personal* reasons to know what "my point" was I will tell you. 1. Time = Money The time I have to dedicate to reading LUGNET is somewhat limited. I am not interested in what (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | why are the TLC/LD contests US only?
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Can someone please explain why only people from the US can enter contest run by TLC/LD? I would imagine that if TLC/:LD could allow anyone to enter they would so why cant they? Does it have something to do with the laws that govern how these sorts (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | an idea for lego: A set design contest
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Here is basicly how it would work. Lego would: 1.set constraints on the design (size, number of pieces, theme etc) and 2.would provide a list of "approved" pieces that can be used in the design (which would be a "cut down" version of the master list (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) What may have confused people is if they were looking to some existing problem that this is supposed to be solving. It's actually not about solving a problem. It's about avoiding dilution of what the community is. LUGNET discussion groups were (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp) !!
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) I have to ask, so what? We want to buy their product, and as long as the groups aren't saturated with marketing (which they aren't), I see no problem. (...) Again...your point is? I don't care if LEGO is about making money, in fact, I want (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) First, yes train folks would be interested. Just as they would be interested if someone had a MetroLiner for sale, that doesn't mean the post should be in .trains . Second, it is purley marketing, the contest is free to join but don't think (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Well, I don't think LEGO can step on toes easily by posting here, but there are other ways they can. That's another facet of the relationship, one that I've discussed briefly with Direct too. They have a good attitude, and part of what they (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) So you are saying the train people would not be interested in this post? It is about trains so, according to the TOS, it belongs in the trains group. I do not see how it is purley marketing - they are not trying to sell us anything, it is a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Note that I think this allows you to "change" an address but does not give you an easy way, from one browser, to create two posting identities (which both link to the same real human being, and which both clearly show a way to contact that (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) xpost to lego.direct, so employees can reply. Eric - I have mixed feelings about your statement, and I'm sure there are people on both extremes. I think its great that LEGO is posting their stuff here, afterall, we're a consumer market too. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings
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(...) Only help for the web interface, though. What if they wanna post using e-mail or nntp? (...) ROSCO (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) "That Larry guy, he just keeps trying to give money, I wish he'd go away." ;^) I've noticed the lost mail thing too, and the response rate. I remember he once said that he prioritized messages and replied to those, and still some got lost (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Yes indeed. Of course it doesn't work 100% reliably (1), leaves no trace, and provides no opportunity for anyone else to comment, offer workarounds, etc. where that would be a helpful thing to do. Seriously... this blocking of posts to .admin (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Would that really happen? if this was the only place for them to answer questions, the mass amount of posts in this thread would be staggering. Plus, if they do answer a question there would be some follow-up in the direct thread - there would (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) This HAS to be an oversight on Todd's part. I can't imagine he did that on purpose. So I wouldn't worry about it unless it stays that way. But it seems clear to me that Todd acted in haste for some reason, it's not like him to overlook a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) They can answer the question. They just can't answer it in a fan forum. Which *is* a good thing, because when you see it there will be no doubt that it is 100% Official LEGO position. (...) No, I am saying that I would prefer to see fans only (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) (Hey, I'm a technologist so I often propose technical solutions to social problems) How about a way from the web interface for members to have one of several precomposed sigs to choose from? That way when I am posting to make an official Guild (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Is it really a good thing if someone at TLC happens to have TLC records which allow them to answer one of the "Dear Gary" posts, and they are allowed to share that information, to not allow them to directly respond to the original question? (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) If this policy is to continue, let me make another suggestion to help with this: there's always lugnet.lego.announce - encourage LEGO employees to post there. Todd, I think it was probably a bad idea to institute this policy without discussing (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Maybe, as Frank Filz said elsewhere in this thread, it would be a good idea to keep the chatter in the lugnet.lego.* groups down. (...) It's not a matter of personal vs official posts, really. It's a matter of where LEGO is invited to (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) And a ROYAL pain in the rear - are we all to wade through the posts under the lugnet.lego to find the one post we are looking for? If they are talking about trains, masks, or whatever - then they should be able to post in that thread just like (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: Still time to enter the LEGO Train Contest
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(...) For all those interested, PLEASE DO. <snip> Hi Jake. Thanks for bringing this up. Please don't consider this post an attempt to rain on TLC's parade because I'm not writing to that end. I'm not beating up on you either. In fact, I'm glad you (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.trains)
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Jake McKee <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:GA91n9.735@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) This concerns me too, I'd appreciate knowing reasons for this change. I can understand confusing a lego.com address with an official post, and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I for one would be interested to hear the details on this... neither Tomas or I are really sure what happened to cause this change. (...) This is extremely awkward. When I first came to LEGO, I actually asked Todd about getting a secondary (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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| | Still time to enter the LEGO Train Contest
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Attention LEGO Train Fans! It’s not too late to enter the LEGO Shop At Home Train Car Building Contest! You could win the grand prize of building instructions of your original model created and published on www.LEGO.com for everyone to see, plus (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Bionicle correction and more info
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I saw a mention of a trading-card game. Any news or more information? -gyug (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | wow, THIS is funny.......
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(...) Lego screwed it up and gave us REALLY rare mask misprints... :-)))) Kanohi Ruru and Kanohi Matatu in Toa colours, Kanohi Kaukau in tryellow and trlightblue....... I am slightly amused by the fact that Lego created REAL collector items by (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings
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FYI, a filter was installed today on the news server to accept lego.com postings (i.e., LEGO Company employees using their official email address) in the following groups only: lugnet.lego lugnet.lego.announce lugnet.lego.direct (essentially the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Bionicle correction and more info
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(...) I appreciate your taking the time to clarify. (...) Hey, anything's possible on the Internet, right? It would simply be a question of LEGO either wanting to do it and doing it, or not wanting to do it, and not doing it. Brad Justus told us in (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Bionicle correction and more info
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What I meant in that case is "that's what I have been told by a person in Denmark who knows what's going on with the 8530 Kanohi set." In other words, it's information from Denmark, not from my own brain -- which is currently located in New York and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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