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(...) Keep in mind that mature love is the culmination of shared interests and experiences, in short love is made not found. Compatibility and common interests are what attract people to each other, but ultimately the decision to commit to someone (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, I dated a girl who was second generation Laoition. (Laos) Her father and moteher came from Laos. It was... an intereseting relationship. Rick (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is a very complex question, which really comes down to a persons priorities. For example if a Christian and a Jew want to get married several questions arise. Will the ceremony be performed by a priest or a rabbi? Will dietary laws be obeyed by (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No easy answer, I'm afraid. Any relationship is a complex beast, from a potential lifemate right down to the stranger you get along with at a party. The strongest influence on a relationship is going to be the people involved, but right up (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <nod> That's what common sense would say, yep. Good to know common sense is right again. ;-) (...) OK, but what if someone is standing between a crossroads, trying to decide between two people they know to make the relation deeper. One of them (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <<cut comment and paste>> (...) <nod> The question is, who are the people involved? You say, *not* just the two people in the relationship, right? Who is also included? Parents of the two? Friends? Family? etc. Who in your opinion should be (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As another disinterested third party I would have to concur with Larry. I'd probably join the show at your church, (even though I'm not Catholic) but I'd be doing so as an individual. To participate _as_a_club_ would not be appropriate - (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whatever floats your boat. :) Put another way, I'm of the strong opinion that it's generally nobodies business how a relationship works except the people involved(1). Compatability is a funny thing, and various factors like religion, culture (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I don't agree that the US is a melting pot. A melting pot suggests no divisions and we know that is not the case. The US is more like a salad. You can still pick out the individual pieces in the bowl. The next step would be a Lego set in that all (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why do you ask? Is someone giving you a hard time because of a "non-traditional" relationship? By the way all my relationships have been inter-xxxx ( as Larry calls them). I hadn't realized this till I read your post so my view is that it doesn't (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am fairly open-minded... I have had relationships outside my religion, race, and country...(ahh the wonders of those college years, but I digress) (...) The internet is only a very small part of the cultural change of the past 40 years... (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I probably will have more to say later. For now: - Statisticial analysis of census data seems to indicate that inter-xxxx is on the upswing at least in the US, across all types of xxxx but that the rate of increase varies by type of xxxx (1). (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm fine with any and all of them. Personally, I would tend to thing that inter-religious are the toughest to handle. Can't say that from personal experience, though. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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...I'd be intereted to hear what people's opinions about inter-racial (inter-ethnic?), inter-religious and inter-national (i.e. people from different countries) relationships. With today's internet as well as world-wide transportation, I'm assuming (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm, OK. I'm not certain that the distinction is relevent most of the time unless you're actually in a debate about perceptions of reality, but I'll grant it to you anyway. :) (although taking this any farther is *really* splitting hairs) (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Great! So now that your country has the benefits of conquest -- wealth and power -- it is possible for it to show the "kinder and gentler" face of colonialism -- the hypocrisy of the congenial tyrant. I'd just like you to know that other (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Warning, semantic slicing and dicing ahead. :-) (...) I would agree except to say that it should read "is not valid for me" or "I cannot accept it as valid within my framework". I acknowledge that others do find it valid. I judge *them* only on (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure. :) (...) Hmm. Bias is perhaps the wrong term for it - I've never seen you reacting to a christian in a neutral environment, so I can't accurately call it bias, I suppose. More after the definition... (...) Dictionary.com's definition (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) redneck rut and realize (...) when it comes to this (...) with their stupid (...) so many of their (...) pleases you. Personally, I (...) grew up with it, and i (...) terms of feet and inches (...) Big deal. Anyway, to (...) around in debate. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can we dig into that a bit? What anti-christian bias? :-) Seriously. I'm not biased. At least I don't *think* I am. From this cite: (URL) selected the def I think applies: 2. Usage Problem. a. A preference or an inclination, especially one (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heh! I really only use it in my signature, since I seldom refer to myself mid-sentence in the 3rd person! Dave! (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) looking for a non-Scientologist. Hmm... Dave! (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good example Dave! (1) I'll go a lot farther than that. I wouldn't even think to *ask* such a thing because I understand that it's not appropriate for a club (as a club) to be seen as espousing a particular view. This distinction is totally (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tony Hedglen writes: <snip> I think you're misreading Larry here - although to be fair, Larry does seem to have an anti-christian bias. BUT! That's not what he's saying. He is saying that the club should not *AS A CLUB* (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tony, please allow me to express my perspective, as a disinterested third party: In the above snippet you point out that the church (by definition, I think we'll agree, a religious institution) would like the club (a group of individuals of (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, regarding the metric system, use whatever pleases you. Personally, I don't care. I like the old system, simply because i grew up with it, and i therefore find it more (personally) natural to think in terms of feet and inches than meters (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I apologize to you and you still accuse me of things. The only confusion I have is you. Do you think the club is a business or a club? I’m not in the club to make money; I’m not in the club to support a certain group. I’m in the club to have fun. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? Cool! Maybe the Euro will be NGL 2.20 one day, and not NGL 2.203. ;) I know, immaterial, given that the Guilder shall cease to exist on 1 March 2002. (...) n.b.: 1872 was the actual Conference that made one particular meter bar the (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then what are you willing to acknowledge, beyond what we've seen here? There's no reason in this long .debate to think that Larry's wrong on that score. (...) The past should be absolutely crucial in considering "the real world." The problem (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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.... (...) I recently had to do somethin involving metirc conversion and was told that at some point the inch was redefind by the international standards people to be exactly 2.54 cm. (...) .... I thought that the meter was defined in terms of the (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heh. It may be sobering to point out that the "brand" of UK was born in 1800, following the forced Act of Union with Ireland. That's when the name becomes valid, and it starts a new era of incredible colonial bloodshed. But I'm not sure all of (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know, I was going to comment on that, then I saw that you already had. (The part about Tim championing science, that is.) I almost fell out of my chair when I read that! :) I was half prepared to read "cubits." Or are we just being evil, (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Much snippage. (...) Note the "as it were" here. This is a figure of speech, I don't believe MICHLUG or MICHLTC actually *has* a banner. (...) There is no "banner". It was figurative. However, if there were, it would not be Chris's decision to make, (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott: I would turn the question around and ask how you would propose to achieve peace with the state sponsors of terrorism, when those same states have demonstrated irrefutably that they accept the destruction of innocent life as a valid (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I’m sorry James that I said thing that should not of been said. As you can see I apologized to Larry about my comments. I’m also apologizing to you for offending you. Like I told Larry we all have our own opinion why we do things. I hope our (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I’m sorry Larry for replying to your e-mail in the manner that I did. I didn’t have too good of a day yesterday. I said some thing I should not of said. We all have our own opinions about things. And your right, it’s nice that club members can (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is your opinion. (...) Yes. (...) If Turkey's legislation is not in line with the EU, Joe could take Turkey to court. Read the papers, it happens to EU members when they do not implement legislation. (...) Banning the use use by UK forces (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't need to read it I already know it. So, could you please reread my post and several other previous ones? I ALREADY said that Turkey is not wanted. I already said that I BELIEVE PUTTING TURKEY IN IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY EUROPEAN COUNTRY RIGHT (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very noble Larry. Perhaps you could tell us how this can be done? And what about state sponsored/enacted terrorism? Scott A (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then perhaps it is you who does not understand the difference (...) Turkey would have to bring its legislation in line with the EU. I read a poll yesterday in the Guardian which said Turkey was the nation which was least likely to join. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From an LP party "polemic"... (Steve Dasbach is US LP chair) - begin cite Over the past week, politicians have been pointing fingers about who is to blame for the incident in South America last Friday, in which the Peruvian air force shot down a (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where the fault is split 60-40 I think you're right. But what if the fault is almost all on one side? (it's not 60-40 in this case but it's not 99-1 either, so this is a hypothetical, I want to know what you think) What then? I come from the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James responded quite nicely and set FUT .debate. I'm not sure that was appropriate since it means we won't hear from Scott, since he doesn't post to .debate (his loss, I guess) but I followed suit. Tony, I think the club members had come to quite a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I still didn't get this impression, though. (...) So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why? Especially, when and if EU politicians (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, not enough said. I've moved it over to .debate, follow if you want to. No, by being present, you _are_ endorsing one religion. As a _club_ member (admittedly not your club), would you then want to support my cause? Reasonablly, I doubt you (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My point was that perhaps they “should take care of it” without torture etc. (...) As I understand it, to join, Turkey would have to bring its legislation in line with that of the EU. (...) Appearances can be deceptive ;-) (...) I agree. But (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In your opinion. Black is black. I am not going to get into a "who is the baddest" debate... it would be rather pointless. (...) You have no idea what I am "willing to acknowledge". As I said before, you are talking about the past. Considering (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, let's assume this is true. It probably is. My question is: so what? Who comes to the table with clean hands? When it comes time to talk of peace there is usually blood on all sides. No side is innocent. No side is able to speak from a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, two of them. I made them already. But for your benefit, since you missed it: 1. You seem to be saying that Israel and the PLO are equally bad. This is incorrect. The PLO is far worse. To say that they are equal shows your bias. 2. The UK (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am tempted to say the same about you, but I won't. (...) Hmm. Rather a simplistic argument. (...) You are free to criticise what ever you wish. I am not going to put you in jail for your political views. (...) Nope, that shows my general (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snippage, as usual. (...) that I would relish being called a braggart... L0L ) I like the last definition (of a related word) in your cite (thanks for that, by the way, always nice to have a different source than good old dictionary.com) "Her (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are mixing tone and content. In any event, I was happy to have my tone called "polemic": (URL) (...) That is because I am talking about now. You are talking about the past. The UK's colonial past does not make it ok for Israelto torture (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He can speak for himself of course, but calling your tone polemic strikes me as a rebuke... and a well deserved one. You've been called on this point before, you are quick to criticise some sides (who deserve criticism, in this case Israel) (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry about that! But isn't the Metric system an abomination in the eyes of God? After all, the linear measure is based on human scientists gaining a true understanding of the world and its workings. Whereas the linear measure in the Imperial (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice blanket statement ;) I live in Tennessee (which is pretty near the top of the Redneck-O-Meter), and I prefer metric over standard. It's really an irrelevant issue, as most common conversions can be done in one's head on the fly. That's (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe I understand the differnce between defending human rights & and masterbation. (...) You are quite wrong. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's US, Brunei and Burma if I remember correctly..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are completely clueless again. I neither said nor mean anything like that. All I tried to explain is was you are not defending human rights, you are just musterbating. Continue, though. It is quite relieving I believe. And for the EU issue (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't diss my kind. BTW, YAY. Metric rules, so do rednecks. Rick (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it's the US, Liberia, and Burma are the last holdouts for any sort of mandated metric conversion. -chris (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your forgetting about the Uk we still have plenty of imperial knocking around. It's about time we got rid of the lot except of course miles per hour, Anyone who trys to change that does so at their own peril. Steve (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Richard did not rebuff me. He only gave the fact I quoted some context. Or are you saying that this is not true: "Turkey and Israel are "free to take care of it". However, both have a history of ignoring human rights and murdering civilians in (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You appear to view human rights a luxury which is great if it can be afforded economically. I view them as being rather more fundamental than that. As I said before, Turkey will not get in the EU until it gets itself in order. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought for a while that they (the UK) DID declare two independent states... Israel and Jordan. When the UK partitioned Palestine, that was the idea. Jordan was to be one part, and Israel the other. Why didn't that work out? Or, why do the (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Abosolutely yay. The US should get out of their redneck rut and realize that they are decades behind the rest of the world when it comes to this issue. The US is simply stinking up everybody else with their stupid old system (especially here (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yay!!! I can't belive that US is still using the imperial system. Last country in the world? /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, see? Here is my point: acting defensively is totally ethical from my viewpoint. And that takes me fighting right up to the border -- my line in the sand. Once my would-be conquerors are on the other side of that line I just don't care (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Man I hate it when you're right about something! A less polemical tone on the part of US and UK (and Israeli and USSR and etc etc. heck, on the part of all of us) speakers would indeed be a good idea. ++Lar (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip rebuffing-of-Scott-part> (...) I agree. That is definitely the key here. (...) I *completely* agree. I think I came off really different in my last post; don't get me wrong here. I am all (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have met him too, I think he's a great guy too, and I know what party you mean... but when he throws a zinger like calling this site "propaganda" I am going to zing back. As usual, he doesn't want to discuss his zinger here, (although he (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lar, how can I put it subtly, Scott (whom I have met, and is a great guy), happens to be a card carrying member, and of the same affiliation as ... (and I am sure he voted for...) dubya. 'Nuff said? (Not that there is anything wrong with (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One liner, huh? It says 4500 yes. "Background Armed conflict between Turkish security forces and the PKK has continued since 1984 in the southeast of Turkey, which is mainly inhabited by Kurds. Both sides were responsible for human rights (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're referring to this bit, I trust: "Both sides were responsible for human rights abuses during the conflict, in which an estimated 4,500 civilians were killed, around 3,000 settlements evacuated or burned down and up to three million (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See: (URL) counts 4500 civilian deaths. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 6000 civilians? You are sure right? And systematically?..Wow..You enlightened me..:-) Doc knows my country better than me..:-) I know Turkey has the worst kind of scum as a government for decades but only one thing that I'm sure of exists, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good thing for most of Europe enough people thought it was moral to fight a war on foreight soil (though I guess in some cases, outside participation was invited). I also don't think we would have the relative peace we have in Europe had we (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was in the bad old days... most other countries were doing pretty much the same - or wanted to. But sure, I'm still not proud of it. Anyhow, we have rebranded ourselves as the "UK" :-) (...) I view some laws as protection for the poor or (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's the way of blood feuds. Or gang-warfare. Or <your phrase of choice here>! Still, a less polemical tone might be more appropriate for someone in Great Britian. Britain is hardly a country without fault, historically speaking. If the sun (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You have a government which systematically abuses human rights and as taken part in the killing of ~6000 civilians in the war you describe. Who voted for them? (...) The IRA has weapons UK, USA and eastern Europe. Bizarrely, some of the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Turkey and Israel are "free to take care of it". However, both have a history of ignoring human rights and murdering civilians in the process. (...) Hmm. And what about the rocket attacks I see your army perpatrate alsmost daily on small (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ooh, Selçuk - now you're talking things I can relate to. What you're describing here reminds me a lot of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict that Scott and Dan were condemning earlier. I stayed out of the discussion because I know where those things (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, in what way is (URL) propaganda, exactly? It may be presenting information about things that you'd rather it didn't, but that's about it. FUT off-topic.debate (...) There is no way to stop a site from being nominated. ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, but both of these were not the main idea behind the film, if I got it correctly. Besides the film was not the main subject here. (...) So at least you already got the main idea, partially..:-) And believe me, public DOES NOT always (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From imdb: Factual errors: The Guildford 4 & the Maguire 7 were not tried in the same court simultaneously. Factual errors: Guiseppe Conlon & Gerry were never in the same prison. (...) It must be: (URL) differnce is that the public in the UK (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kurdish people not equal to PKK just like Irish people not not equal to IRA. I hope this would help. And if the film "In The Name of My Father" ((URL) has any truth in it, it is sometimes quite difficult to separate one from the other, huh? (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Prices in Sweden: One US gallon = 3.85 US $ one metric litre = 10:36 Skr one US gallon = 3.7854 litres 1 US$ = 10:198 Skr (10.36 x 3.7854) / 10.198 = 3.8455.... /Tobbe (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah. But a certain NATO country is no friend to the kurds either. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, and Yogi Berra nevers said "Deja Vu all over again", right??? <grin> ++Lar (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's to investigate, it's like discovering that bears poop in the woods. The man (and I use word that in only the biological sense) is the scum of the earth. He has been killing off the marsh Arabs in the south and the Kurds in the north (he (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I wasn't trying to pick a fight, either. I certainly didn't receive your words as negative criticism towards myself -- I definitely need to try to express that better in the future. FWIW, I liked the movie. The first time I watched it (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and 10 years after the event Saddam Hussein is being _investigated_ for war crimes: (URL) shall sleep well tonight knowing that Scotland Yard is on the case. Scott A (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ooh! Thank you Dan! I could go for some good salsa about now. (...) And who are you to turn the heart of the average American? To introduce some new compassion into even a small fraction of your peers...it's a pretty tall order. I hate to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) invasions and occupation of land in Egypt, Syria and Lebenon and their occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. On a side note: the USA still maintains sanctions against Cuba, really for no good reason other than because the Cold War generation (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh-oh... I think it is obvious that I taken it in a very different, actually in exact reverse context..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's the US; we don't do anything half-way! If we're going to have a work week, we're going to have the *longest* work week. Ditto stress level and divorce rates! Go team! (...) In my work toward an English degree I was required to buy three (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In Scotland, I pay around US$5.50 for a UK gallon (8 pints). It is not the end of the world to be honest, I would not mind paying a little more if the tax was well spent or if it helped (directly or indirectly) reduce pollution. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But we be forgiven by our families for working >50 hours per week? I read the USA has the longest working week, highest levels of work related stress and the worst divorce rates in the west. (...) 100% correct. In the field I work in everyone (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know that "busy" needs to be in quotes, or if it's even a matter of laziness. If I (and countless others) spend 50+ each week working and/or commuting to work, in addition to other immediate responsibilities, I think we can be forgiven (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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