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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Tue, 1 May 2001 07:52:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
You appear to view human rights a luxury which is great if it can be
afforded economically. I view them as being rather more fundamental than
that. As I said before, Turkey will not get in the EU until it gets itself
in order.

Scott A

You are completely clueless again. I neither said nor mean anything like
that. All I tried to explain is was you are not defending human rights, you
are just musterbating. Continue, though. It is quite relieving I believe.

I believe I understand the differnce between defending human rights & and
masterbation.


I still didn't get this impression, though.

Then perhaps it is you who does not understand the difference


And for the EU issue read again (you really seem to be not understanding
anything at the first time):

"And believe me, if your dearest country and its allies see it as a
profitable thing, whether there is a Kurdish/Cyprus/Agean Sea/whatever
you call problem exist or not, we will be part of your very dear union,
and believe me, you won't have any ways to "vote" about it.  Not that I
believe putting us inside EU is profitable from any of the participant
countries right now."

You are quite wrong.


So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of
making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why?


Turkey would have to bring its legislation in line with the EU. I read a
poll yesterday in the Guardian which said Turkey was the nation which was
least likely to join. Further only around 15% of the EU puplic wnat it to join.

The on-line version may be read here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4177720,00.html

Especially, when and if EU politicians decide to put us inside (I don't think
they would do, but not for not respecting human rights and such, which are just
minor nitpicks without any real value in international politics) how can you
make it otherwise? Do you go to the streets marching and shouting with big
signs on hand? And someone care? Or someone care more than making your police
beating you with a bat on your head?

Read the text from the Guardian : Turkey is not wanted.


Don't even try to explain how kind and gentle your police are. I already read
your country's page from AI site.

Ah, but the police in my country go to jail when it can be shown, in court,
they have broken the law.

Scott A


Selçuk



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(...) Don't need to read it I already know it. So, could you please reread my post and several other previous ones? I ALREADY said that Turkey is not wanted. I already said that I BELIEVE PUTTING TURKEY IN IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY EUROPEAN COUNTRY RIGHT (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I still didn't get this impression, though. (...) So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why? Especially, when and if EU politicians (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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