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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Date: 
Tue, 1 May 2001 07:52:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > > You appear to view human rights a luxury which is great if it can be
> > > > afforded economically. I view them as being rather more fundamental than
> > > > that. As I said before, Turkey will not get in the EU until it gets itself
> > > > in order.
> > > > 
> > > > Scott A
> > > 
> > > You are completely clueless again. I neither said nor mean anything like
> > > that. All I tried to explain is was you are not defending human rights, you
> > > are just musterbating. Continue, though. It is quite relieving I believe.
> > 
> > I believe I understand the differnce between defending human rights & and
> > masterbation.
> 
> 
> I still didn't get this impression, though.

Then perhaps it is you who does not understand the difference

> 
> > > And for the EU issue read again (you really seem to be not understanding
> > > anything at the first time):
> > > 
> > > "And believe me, if your dearest country and its allies see it as a
> > > profitable thing, whether there is a Kurdish/Cyprus/Agean Sea/whatever
> > > you call problem exist or not, we will be part of your very dear union,
> > > and believe me, you won't have any ways to "vote" about it.  Not that I
> > > believe putting us inside EU is profitable from any of the participant
> > > countries right now."
> > 
> > You are quite wrong.
> 
> 
> So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of
> making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why?


Turkey would have to bring its legislation in line with the EU. I read a
poll yesterday in the Guardian which said Turkey was the nation which was
least likely to join. Further only around 15% of the EU puplic wnat it to join.

The on-line version may be read here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4177720,00.html

> Especially, when and if EU politicians decide to put us inside (I don't think
> they would do, but not for not respecting human rights and such, which are just
> minor nitpicks without any real value in international politics) how can you
> make it otherwise? Do you go to the streets marching and shouting with big
> signs on hand? And someone care? Or someone care more than making your police
> beating you with a bat on your head?

Read the text from the Guardian : Turkey is not wanted.

> 
> Don't even try to explain how kind and gentle your police are. I already read
> your country's page from AI site.

Ah, but the police in my country go to jail when it can be shown, in court,
they have broken the law.

Scott A

> 
> Selçuk



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  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) Don't need to read it I already know it. So, could you please reread my post and several other previous ones? I ALREADY said that Turkey is not wanted. I already said that I BELIEVE PUTTING TURKEY IN IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY EUROPEAN COUNTRY RIGHT (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I still didn't get this impression, though. (...) So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why? Especially, when and if EU politicians (...) (25 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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