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Re: A Lego display fund raiser
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 1 May 2001 14:00:36 GMT
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Much snippage.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tony Hedglen writes:
> In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Tony, I think the club members had come to quite a nice accomodation, to
> > wit, that club members would be getting together to do this but not "flying
> > the MICHLUG banner" as it were,
Note the "as it were" here. This is a figure of speech, I don't believe
MICHLUG or MICHLTC actually *has* a banner.
> I’m sorry Larry for replying to your e-mail in the manner that I did. I
> didn’t have too good of a day yesterday. I said some thing I should not of
> said. We all have our own opinions about things. And your right, it’s nice
> that club members can do this. As far as the Michlug banner, I’ll let Chris
> decide on that.
There is no "banner". It was figurative. However, if there were, it would
not be Chris's decision to make, it is the club as a whole that has to decide.
> I really don’t care if the club banner is there or not. I
> just hopping there will be enough people to be there. I understand the
> reasons you don’t want to be there and that’s fine with me. I really didn’t
> want to start a debate on this. I was in a bad mood yesterday and I took
> some things out on you. I’m sorry again. Thank you for letting me know that
> you won’t be there.
Your apology to me, and I suspect to James as well, is not necessary.
It suggests that you haven't yet grasped what the issue is. It is not one of
affront. It is one of appropriateness. I am not personally offended by
religion in general or by this request in particular. I just do not think it
is appropriate for the club AS A CLUB to do this. No amount of apologising
on your part will suffice, what is needed is your understanding, not your
contrition.
The decision of whether the club participates AS A CLUB ultimately is a
decision for the club as a whole to make. Not for Chris alone to make, not
for me alone to make, not for you alone, but the club. Since we have a very
informal structure, we tend to take decisions by consensus. My read of the
comments of other members is that consensus has been reached, the club as a
whole should not.
The decision of whether individuals participate is an individual decisions.
Many individuals have decided to do so. Some have not. That's great.
Hopefully this will put the matter to rest unless you still do not see the
distinctions here.
++Lar
++Lar
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| I apologize to you and you still accuse me of things. The only confusion I have is you. Do you think the club is a business or a club? I’m not in the club to make money; I’m not in the club to support a certain group. I’m in the club to have fun. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: A Lego display fund raiser
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| (...) As another disinterested third party I would have to concur with Larry. I'd probably join the show at your church, (even though I'm not Catholic) but I'd be doing so as an individual. To participate _as_a_club_ would not be appropriate - (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: A Lego display fund raiser
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| I've been trying to resist chiming in on this topic, but I wanted to add my two cents and share a recent experience with a local church. A few months back there was a post in the LUGNET local Atlanta Georgia (USA) newsgroup from a person looking to (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I’m sorry Larry for replying to your e-mail in the manner that I did. I didn’t have too good of a day yesterday. I said some thing I should not of said. We all have our own opinions about things. And your right, it’s nice that club members can (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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