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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:03:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> I just thought I'd point out that I wasn't trying to negatively criticize
> anyone specifically for the manner in which they choose to remember the
> Holocaust.
> [...]
> I was also not trying to pick a fight with the makers of Schindler's List
> for the way they chose to remember the victims relevant to their story --
> well, not exactly anyway.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to pick a fight, either. I certainly didn't receive
your words as negative criticism towards myself -- I definitely need to try
to express that better in the future.
FWIW, I liked the movie. The first time I watched it the grief was
overwhelming. It probably did nothing to lessen it that the girl I went to
see it with was a Polish exchange student from near Krakow. She would point
at something on the screen and say, I've been there, they did that.
> The film is good, whatever factual errors and
> mistakes it may make I still think it's message is a worthy one. I think
> it's portrayal of the Nazi played by Ralph Fiennes is surprisingly
> sympathetic -- in the end I thought of him as someone rather pitiable and
> not necessarily in his right mind.
Yah, just a small detour -- I thought his performance was among the best in
the movie. And the writing for this character had much more depth than any
other depiction of a Nazi than I've ever seen on film.
> You should have
> seen those nutty Argentines goose-stepping down the streets of Buenos Aires
> -- that was scarey! And yeah, these were just young draftees -- many of them
> good persons doing bad things. Think of the young american men in Viet Nam
> -- same thing...
> That's pretty much how I see these young Israeli and Palestinian men too! As
> kinds of victims in a political fiasco. Nobody wins until we drop the
> weapons and start talking more. It doesn't matter who started it -- how are
> we going to stop it?!
That's the million-dollar question.
After my tirade to Dan about get-your-hands-dirty-and-fix-it, I should
acknowledge that that's exactly what's going on in Isreal right now -- young
and idealistic people geting their hands dirty, making their mark in what
for all appearances looks like a government of by and for the people, doing
what they think is right for their people. Unfortunately, the men leading
them are *not* doing what they think is right for their people; they're
doing what they think is right for themselves. What needs to happen,
methinks, is for the warmongers in charge to get out of the way.
Cheers,
- jsproat
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| (...) Okay... I just thought I'd point out that I wasn't trying to negatively criticize anyone specifically for the manner in which they choose to remember the Holocaust. To that extent, I think that I am with Shiri inasmuch as personal accounts (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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