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| (...) It might make sense, but it seems to work fine to keep the discussion here. I suppose it depends a bit on how formal/practical you want us to be. Since I haven't got much time for helping with the coding, I would feel (a little bit) bad about (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| I'm content with news being at LUGNET's core. So, assuming all goes well, it'll stay the same for a while. When folks want to subscribe via RSS feeds, or whatever else, I think that'll be pretty simple to do with what's already here. My original (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | admin.dev? [Was: Dear NNTP users]
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| (...) Okay, this looks like a good spot for me to ask: "Would you guys like a newsgroup for discussion of LUGNET's development?" I've gotten a few offers now for coding help. Yeaaa!! I'll be honest: From behind the scenes, it's looking more and more (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) A quick scan through the vbulletin boards reveals 5 releases in the same time frame, all of which had security issues, one marked critical. I think that's comparable to phpBB's record, don't you? But we should not be discussing the relative (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Looking at the phpBB website all 6 had security fixes, although not all "critical" (...) If nothing happens within those 6 months... phpBB just has a very bad track record with regard to their code quality, compared to infoPoP, vBulletin and (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I've got the fat pipe. So I'd like to be able to tell this NNTP client to go ahead and grab images (maybe I'd set it to pre-fetch all images, maybe only for certain groups). That way I don't have to wait for slow websites or bad URLs. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Actually, people were having online discussions about LEGO for a long time, before digital images were so prevalent. But I think it's a matter of preference -- I don't spend nearly as much of my 'LEGO' time looking at MOCs as other people do. (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) If I want to see the pictures I just kick their URL's off to my image viewer. If I don't, I don't have to wait for them to arrive. (...) So do I. But not af all the MOCs. (...) That requires a rather fat pipe-line. With a 56 kbit/s modem line (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I am not making a mistake. I am referring to use rather than the precise definition. I am well aware that a protocol and a data format are different, does a typical user care, however, that (s)he just downloaded a file via FTP or HTTP? (...) (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) You seem to make the same mistakes as many other people: a) RSS and NNTP are two completely different things. RSS is a data format. NNTP is a data transport protocol. b) Things aren't bad, just because they're old. (...) NNTP will not become (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Why? For futureproofing. I suspect that NNTP will decrease its 'marketshare' as time goes on whilst RSS will increase. I could be wrong about that but from reading this tree, it seems I am not the only person who has dumped NNTP for reading (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Yes. But why would anybody do that? NNTP is (IMO) the most logical transport protocol for RSS data anyway. That hack would only be needed if you transported RSS data over a non-threaded protocol like HTTP (which unfortunately often is the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| --SNIP-- (...) --SNIP-- I think you could run a threaded discussion running RSS. If you look at the RSS 2.0 specifications there is a tag <category> which could be used to categorise each post as a subcategory of its parent. It's not as elegant as a (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Sensible. (...) Why not associate the format with the user account? NNTP actually has authentication built in. It's just not very common to use it. With some accounts named "<format>reader", we can let people select the format they get the FTX (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Print view
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| (...) No. It happens more often that I switch to the "Nested: All" view. Play well, Jacob (21 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Print view
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| When I print out posts from the web interface, I first switch to raw view. Do other people do that? just curious. -Suz (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) This is great feedback, Jacob. Your responses make excellent points. I agree that RSS is better for seeding discussion. -Suz (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I think if we have a proxy that understands FTX and can translate it, the output format shouldn't be set - have that part be pluggable, so you could have it output html, or plain text, or anything else we can think of. Just have the proxy (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) The term "RSS-to-NNTP" does not really make sense. RSS is a data format, whereas NNTP is a protocol. You can convert RSS-feeds (independently of their transport protocols) to plain text and post them to an appropriate newsgroup. But you can't (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I don't follow Lugnet through a newsreader (not since the port change). The combination of the annoying e-mail-based authentication, figuring out how to reconfigure my newsreader for the non-standard port, and my general annoyance with having (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) But which format would you translate it to? Wouldn't you have to translate the FTX articles to HTML to get the inlined images? And wouldn't that limit the practical number of NNTP clients slightly? - But of course not as much as implementing (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I disagree strongly! What protocol exists, which can replace NNTP and which has all the same benefits as NNTP. (...) NNTP is _not_ cumbersome. (but the Lugnet NNTP server is practically unusable to me) I agree that Lugnet doesn't use NNTP very (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I haven't looked at XUL writing, but I think it shouldn't be too hard for the java gurus. If I was going to write it, I'd probably try the Emacs way, with some lisp hackery. Or, better yet, write an NNTP proxy that will do the translation on (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) The web interface is bandwidth-heavy and it hasn't much memory of _my_ actions. (...) Gnus isn't strictly text-only. Neither is Mozilla. Pine is text-only. (...) Are you in the mood to study how to add new modes to Emacs? Or do you think it is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Organizing volunteer coders
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| (...) It seems strange to me, to put RSS in the same group as SMTP and NNTP. To me SMTP and NNTP, like HTTP, are data transfer protocols. RSS is on the other hand a data (annotation) format which - at least in principle - can be transferred with any (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Completing the Lugnet Database....
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| (...) That would be great! :-) (...) It should go without saying that we on the BrickLink Catalog refer to the Lugnet database regularly for verification of submissions and other questions and are happy to hear it will continue to exist. (...) This (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Completing the Lugnet Database....
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| (...) (^_^) I can't tell you how excited the thought of this makes me. The LUGNET DB has always been my fav online project. I love working on it, and ever since the LouZ's Pause pages, I've loved browsing through old LEGO sets! [BTW, the LUGNET DB (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.database)
| | | | | Completing the Lugnet Database....
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| For what it is worth, I do hope that Lugnet maintains some sort of existence into the future, including the Lugnet database. In finishing up the final tidbits for my Lego CD I have been working on now for nearly 3 years, I am just about to the point (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Don't listen to that [mere] mortal! You mod as many bricks as you want!!! Mwaaaahaahhaaaaaahahaaa -Rob (21 years ago, 26-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Lenny, As more of an observer than participator for some time now, please understand that I mean this in a kind and non-personal way: Dude, you tend to overreact. Please relax a little more, and try not to stress too much. Nobody wants you (...) (21 years ago, 26-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Hmm... you know, I hadn't even thought about this beyond the first time I put the blog URL in a message here. Now that I'm reminded of it, I'll try to include a warning whenever I post a link over there ..though I doubt that'll happen often. I (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Yeah, I think everything is cool now. (^^) Please stay Lenny. I am sorry for my immaturity earlier. -Suz (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) I think one big problem people have is letting their vindictive emotions govern their actions. The policy of "an eye for an eye" is really unnecessary, IMHO. I once was involved with a Lego project where there were some sparks flying. After (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| I do generally prefer NNTP, but web based does have a few advantages. Here are my pros and cons for each (not specific to LUGNET unless specified): NNTP Pro: User selectable client software allows greater tuning of the interface. My software is in (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Lenny, I'm glad to hear that Ross' email and communicating with Suz was helpful. I hope your post indicates you are planning on staying. Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) -snip- (...) Ya Ross, That was helpful. Based on more discussion with Suz, I think I was over-reacting. Anyway, lets hope for the best. -Lenny (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) I would think that if Suz found it acceptable to link to her blog (which contains adult language), then it would be appropriate for Lenny to do the same. Kelly (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Lenny, if they want you gone, they'll say so. If you want to go, then do so- but not over this. LUGNet needs strength and determination right now, not an ever-widening spiral of anger and hurt feelings. Tim (Smith) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| Lenny, LUGNET is notionally a "family" site. Please don't link to outside pages which contain examples of your (or anyone else’s) foul language. :- Scott A (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Nicer in what way? The web interface has to work hard to provide the same information-at-a-glance that Free Agent does. (...) Who ever said that an NNTP client has to be text-only? (hey, anyone know of one that isn't?) It'd be really cool to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Ummmmmm well that's not really fair - phpBB has had 6 updates over the 6 months I've been running it, and only 2 were for major security issues. And most of the exploits are because the site didn't keep up-to-date with the latest updates, or (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Some advice, please
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| (...) Lenny, as someone else that is concerned about the future of Lugnet, but that has "started their own site and runs it how they want", I think totally dissolving your relationship with Lugnet is (IMO) an over-reaction. I was also feeling very (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Nice != Useful (...) I don't WANT pictures, unless I explicitly click on them to be opened. And with me probably a lot of others. Some of us are sometimes still on dial-up you know.... (in the field, on holiday, or just no affordable broadband (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Organizing volunteer coders [was: Dear NNTP users]
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| (...) From what I understand, OS projects don't always look for a single person to organize everyone for the whole time - as people lose interest, others step in. While the larger projects often have a "visionary" leader (Larry Wall, Linus (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Some advice, please
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| I've been following (URL) Suz's Lugnet Livejournal>. I'm sure everyone knows, but I have a bit of interest in the future of Lugnet, so I'm quite a bit uneasy when I hear things about Lugnet being turned off or going away. In this (URL) , Suz (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Organizing volunteer coders [was: Dear NNTP users]
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| (...) Yes, difficult to find a full-time individual who would be available for the duration of any significant (re)development. Also probably hard to find a part-time manager dedicated enough to oversee work done by many. I have received some offers (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| "Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:IJxLJF.1xwq@lugnet.com... (...) Why is browsing offline important? My computer is on-line at all times (expect when I'm sleeping, of course.). You can read an on-line forum at your (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| "Jan-Albert van Ree" <javanree@vanree.net> wrote in message news:IJxyIx.3EM@lugnet.com... (...) True, but the web based interface is so much nicer. Also see my response to your next point. (...) Because a GUI makes it much easier to communicate (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Because most of the discussions I follow on LUGNET don't involve many pictures, and I can always look at those later? Besides, one CAN tie in NNTP with other stuff, if I use my fancy newsreader I can click on any link and the pic is opened, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| Hello! (...) That's exactly what I never understood about the NNTP fans' fondness of NNTP. I *can* understand why software engineers, coders and other geeky NNTP users (sorry :-) ) use NNTP and actually prefer it over every other form of forum. But (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| Message sent via NNTP Thanks all of you that helped Tim Now all I have to do is work out how to subscribe to multiple groups without having to do them individually "Ross Crawford" <ross.{mylastname}@gmail.com> wrote in message (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | About discussing stuff [was: good afternoon!]
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| LUGNET things are still up in the air. So, I have no real solid situation to state. I'm still gathering info about possibilities and listening to offers. I -would- be posting more bit-by-bit communication here, but my time is seriously limited. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:20050722133952....ron.com... (...) FeedReader doesn't like that address. Any idea why? Mike (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Well, didn't we decide that we all love it? :) (...) I think it's a really nice feature to have (and a great differential between LUGNET and other boards), but for me, SMTP support is more important than NNTP. Not just because that's what I (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Well, there is an RSS feed of all LUGNET posts on Peeron: (URL) it is for all the newsgroups, and not one per each step in the hierarchy. (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| Suz, I use NNTP almost exclusively. As others have pointed out, the new web forums (such as that used on legofan.org) are somewhat spiffy, but I find them slow and cumbersome. With NNTP I can quickly scan what is new across a relatively flat list of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I see there are lots of replies that I haven't read yet, but I'll just answer Suz's question directly for myself. I read a few standard newsgroups from my ISP's server via NNTP. E.g. comp.arch (computer architecture), rec.humour.funny, etc. I (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Exactly. My computer is online 100% (Linux), so offline doesn't matter to me. I sit here typing into Gnu emacs (so editing is comfortable), with a browser window half-hidden, open to the "Lugnet Classic" logo from a post I read a few minutes (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Thank you, thank you! I am so happy with the responses and discussion in this thread. It's great for me to hear all your views and to learn so much in a hurry. Some of it's over my head. ..I'll still need to read the posts carefully, and take (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) XanaNews is a good one too, and it's completely free (Although Outlook Express is good enough for me, keeping mail and news in the same client): (URL) Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) As no email software SHOULD, but let's discuss THAT topic somewhere else ;) (email which is purely HTML goes to my /dev/null , makes for a saner day) (...) RSS is nice, but how would you replace the offline behaviour of NNTP and how would you (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: (><)
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| (...) It's all tied into the fact that it wasn't wrapped correctly when it was posted. I'm guessing something in the nested thread view constrains the width of the tables, so the wrapping is done by your browser when you view it. ROSCO (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Yes the latest Windows firewall does have issues - I have stopped using it as my ADSL modem has a firewall. But before that I used Sygate firewall (URL) with no problems. Also, make sure you're using the correct port 1119, not the default 119. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Thanks to both you and steve for your help Still doesn't work mind you! I'm wondering XP firewall issues but as the missus is using the computer I'll have to test some other time. FreeAgent gives a windsock error Connection refused by server (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I used to use the NNTP service but I must say I much prefer the web based service. I find NNTP to be that little bit too primitive, sort of like email software which can't deal with HTML mime type. (...) I think using RSS is a great idea. It (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: (><)
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| (...) Appears as one long line when viewed as a single post in IE6 for me. However while it does the same viewing the whole thread linear, when viewing the whole thread nested (URL) its OK If that provides any clues! Tim (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Yes. Free Agent allows you to reply via email to messages. So it needs to know where to send email. (...) It won't if Hotmail doesn't allow you to send email via SMTP. (...) That should be whatever address you want people to send private (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) If I remember correct you can leave the SMTP empty, it's only used if you reply to a message by email instead of to the newsgroup. Reply address should always be your regular email address, so people can email you if they want to reply in (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I played around with NNTP on LUGNET a year or so ago, got it working, almost never used it. It didn't fit into my own personal workflow. Going beyond the immediate questions you pose, it sounds like you're interested in determining the (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Strangely, thats what I just downloaded! I've come back here for some advice The setup requires the Mail: (SMTP) Server. Is this for my mail account? if so I'm assuming a Hotmail account won't work? I checked on the Outlook Newreader, It (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) These days, I use almost only the discussion groups of LUGNET, which I still access using NNTP, so to me it's pretty much text only. I don't see any images no, but I don't mind. If it's described well and sounds cool, I'll cut'n'paste the URL (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) If you're running Windows, you can try Forte's Free Agent. That's what I used for years. Steve (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I've never used NNTP (hate Outlook Express and never bothered to explore other readers (plus its blocked by the firewall at work)). However only this evening on the train home from work I was think I should see what the fuss was, before I read (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) You're forgetting some BIG advantages of NNTP... NNTP doesn't require huge bloated software (be it IE or Firefox or whatever...), since it's text-based there's little overhead (just look at all the HTML code when looking at the source of ANY (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| "Allan Johansen" <f2k@chaotica.dk> wrote in message news:IJxH0E.110r@lugnet.com... (...) die (...) I disagree. I think NNTP is a underappreciated technology by most people. Reading content via a News Reader is as simple as reading e-mail. I really (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) Um, well, since my newsreader is Pine, I suppose I could say that I follow all my e-mail through my newsreader. . .but I don't use NNTP for anything but LUGNET newsgroups (and never really read any non-LUGNET newsgroups but rtl and some (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| It seems that I'm no only one here who doesn't like NNTP. I'll try to explain. NNTP is, to me, an outdated technology that should simply be allowed to die out. It is cumbersome (especially with the extra checks that Lugnet demand before allowing (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| "Suz" <suz@baseplate.com> wrote in message news:IJw76p.246I@lugnet.com... (...) I subscribe to about 40 Lugnet groups on 3 different computers via NNTP. That's my idea of cool! ;) I've never figured out how to subscribe to rtl or I would (paid (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.nntp)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) usenet groups (among them rec.toys.lego :-) other, non-usenet servers, for example borland.public.delphi.* (...) Not switch. I do read a couple of web forums, but I really don't like the format (the content is my reason for reading). (...) (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| Mainly, if you kill off Lugnet, try to find someone willing to support/host the NNTP side in some way, so us dinosaurs can continue with our non-web reading, and the webbies can have the interface they seem to rave about. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I'm not sure I follow you. LUGNET newsgroups are either on or off and Jake's personal project is not equipped. (?) -Suz (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: (><)
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| (...) Same here. Happens in Safari too. (...) thanks. (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| I only use NNTP for Lugnet. As other hobbies I have had have moved to BBs, I have trailed off of them. I *highly* prefer NNTP and email to anything else, as I can download when I want and read offline (not that I'm ever really offline). I just won't (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: (><)
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| (...) I think there must be a wrap_the_post() funcrion somewhere in there that does the wrapping when you post from your browser. (...) Mozilla does seem to handle the preview differently from IE. But even though it puts extra line breaks in the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) I've been following several dutch newsgroups, mostly Linux/hardware related for years. Used to subscribe to other groups too but those died out when webboards came or were ruined by one or two loudmouths. (...) I've been using KDE's akregator (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I have to admit I've had my own share of difficulty with this. The worst part seems to be that it's random. Using Mozilla, I hit "preview" on a post, and occasionally, it wraps text very oddly. Then, without changing anything, I'll hit (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| okay, I'm annoyed now. Why is this coming up as one long line in the LUGNET web interface? (URL) always just felt too stupid to ask about it, but my misery has gone on too long, and I've tried altering many variables. So, why is it that whenever I (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| For those of you using newsreaders, I have a few questions. I'm curious: what other sorts of stuff do you follow via newsreader? Anything cool? Are there many things you've been forced to switch to viewing other ways? How do you follow rss feeds? Is (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: LUGNet shut off
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| (...) Heh. Thankfully, I haven't "Had it!" yet, so there's been no temptation for rash action. (^^) But, we will see how it goes. (...) LOL! This *is* insane, isn't it? Ghad, and my brother is David, and my father was Dave! So many wonderful Daves (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day
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| (...) Yeahh, I knooow :-( ...sigh. (...) LOL. I just now saw this in the web browser. Very cute and warms my heart. :-) -Suz (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: LUGNet shut off
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| (...) I, for one, endorse immediate, full-blown hysteria. All this reasonable analysis misses a golden opportunity for us to run around like headless chickens. (...) IMO you’d be within your rights, even if it would ruffle some feathers, to say (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: LUGNet shut off
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| (...) I am still struggling with the timing. I'm relieved that there has been no rush of panic! Here's what I'm thinking at the moment... For my own sanity, it seems reasonable that a rough course of action be decided upon by Aug 1. That is to say, (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| (...) Hi, Ray! Short answer (quoting a friend): a) Lugnet needs a sustainable governing mechanism. b) Lugnet needs a sustainable revenue source. c) etc... There are all kinds of possibile aproaches to those first two blocks, but 'A' might mean (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day
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| (...) I'm not an insider at LUGNET and I've never seen the code or heard about until the remarks here. I have been a coder/designer (and whatever terms apply) at various shops over the years and I *have* seen code where calling it 'patched' would (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
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| (...) Some parts are excessively documented (like the PML engine) and some parts are poorly documented (like the query engine), and the rest falls somewhere in the middle, mostly being scantily documented. (...) PML is just Perl inside of HTML...so (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
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| In lugnet.admin.general, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: [...] (...) Welllll.... I'm sorry to say that this didn't finish setup. The servers are there, but a few weeks ago they were to receive an upgrade to the new BU Linux, and I told MattM to hold off (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
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| Suz wrote: <SNIP big tech history> (...) Exactly, there are enough sites like that out there, to me it's the NNTP that made it unique. As for Dan's reply, I think he's spot on in several things. However it seems certain pieces of what he lists are (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
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| (...) The code does take some getting used to. Reading Todd's code was sometimes really amazing - you'd see he was planning for things you know he had no idea he will need one day. And whenever solving a new problem, there were always many hooks to (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | | | LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
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| (...) yes. this touches on what I meant. And let me say, NNTP and the e-mail lists are extremely important to me. Todd was teaching himself Perl as he created LUGNET. This is what I'd call "personal project driven learning." Anyone who's done this (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| (...) (I'm sorry... I oft forget that everyone doesn't know all that I do.) Yes, he did so when I went to Boston the first time. That was my reason for meeting with him face-to-face. Please consider me his buffer. [thinking...] ...I don't know how (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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