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Re: Dear NNTP users,
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lugnet.admin.general
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:59:27 GMT
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> You seem to make the same mistakes as many other people:
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> a) RSS and NNTP are two completely different things.
> RSS is a data format.
> NNTP is a data transport protocol.
I am not making a mistake. I am referring to use rather than the precise
definition. I am well aware that a protocol and a data format are different,
does a typical user care, however, that (s)he just downloaded a file via FTP or
HTTP?
> b) Things aren't bad, just because they're old.
No. But things become less useful when less people use them.
> > I could be wrong about that but from
> > reading this tree, it seems I am not the only person who has dumped NNTP for
> > reading Lugnet. Doing everything via HTTP and (potentially) RSS has the
> > advantage that it is really unlikely to be 'antiquated' or unsupported in the
> > near future.
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> NNTP will not become unsupported until a better replacement arrives. And it
> hasn't yet.
But it will be used by a smaller and smaller percentage of users, thus making
support of it more and more obsolete. Should I release my videos on Beta because
it is a better standard than VHS?
> > Well, perhaps Lugnet is converting the other way around but my point still
> > stands. If you can convert one way, you can reverse the proccess (given a
> > lossless transformation which I think RSS could provide).
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> I am quite sure that RSS can not provide a lossless transport of the information
> embedded in NNTP [1]. It is on the other hand trivial to distribute RSS using
> NNTP [2].
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> Play well,
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> Jacob
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> [1] At least not without mistreating the format so much that ordinary RSS
> aggregators would break.
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> [2] But it is true that there aren't that many RSS aggregators around, which
> know NNTP yet.
I agree that it is quite possible RSS could not provide ALL information to NNTP
data. I am more interested in whether conversion could be made to work, not if
it can be made to work in the most complete possible way.
Yours,
Tim
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| I'm content with news being at LUGNET's core. So, assuming all goes well, it'll stay the same for a while. When folks want to subscribe via RSS feeds, or whatever else, I think that'll be pretty simple to do with what's already here. My original (...) (19 years ago, 31-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: Dear NNTP users,
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| (...) You seem to make the same mistakes as many other people: a) RSS and NNTP are two completely different things. RSS is a data format. NNTP is a data transport protocol. b) Things aren't bad, just because they're old. (...) NNTP will not become (...) (19 years ago, 30-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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