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Re: Dear NNTP users,
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:04:21 GMT
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"Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:IJxLJF.1xwq@lugnet.com...

"Allan Johansen" <f2k@chaotica.dk> wrote in message
news:IJxH0E.110r@lugnet.com...

NNTP is, to me, an outdated technology that should simply be allowed to • die
out. It is cumbersome (especially with the extra checks that Lugnet
demand
before allowing user to post) and, quite frankly, not particularly
user-friendly.


I disagree.  I think NNTP is a underappreciated technology by most people.
Reading content via a News Reader is as simple as reading e-mail.  I
really
like the ability to download all of the new posts and read it offline and
at
my convenience.  I don't know of any web based forum which allows for
offline reading.  I have OE configured to watch the newsgroups I care
about.
With one click I can see there are 5 new articles in lugnet.general, 3 in
lugnet.trains, etc.  I don't have to go wandering around LUGNET to see
what
is new.  For me it is an efficiency, my computer is doing a bunch of work
for me while I do other stuff.


Why is browsing offline important? My computer is on-line at all times
(expect when I'm sleeping, of course.).

You can read an on-line forum at your convenience too.



I actually find it rather annoying that I have to wait several minutes while
Outlook downloads the new messages. If it was an on-line forum then the
messages would be there (almost) instantly.



I rarely participate in web based forums because I find most of them a
pain
to keep track of what I have read and what I haven't.  Yahoo's message
boards (not Yahoo Groups, the message boards which they use on
finance.yahoo.com) is the only one which I find easy to follow.  It is
very
clear what you have read and what you haven't.


Most forums these days use small icons to notify about new posts. There's
usually
also a timestamp denoting when the last post was made. And on top of that,
most forums alsom use e-mail to instantly notify you when a reply is made.

This is actually quite nice. I don't have to wait for Outlook to check
whether or not there're new messages.



I've got e-mail -> There's a new post.

I'v got no e-mail -> There's no new post, and I need not waste time checking
for it.



I think RSS has gained in popularity because people tire of going to web
sites to see if there is new content they might want to read.  While RSS
helps (I used FeedReader too), it still suffers from not being able to
read
offline.  This may not be an issue for a lot of people but I find that
when
I traveling, particularly on an airplane, I have time to catch up on my
LUGNET reading.


You've got a point there.



I'm curious, how many users download messages and then read them later?



I don't find LUGNET's validation scheme to be to much hassle - it limits
the
spam and ensures that people are somewhat accountable for what they post.
I
post, I get an e-mail, I reply, my post appears on LUGNET.  Not a real big
deal IMHO.

Mike


I don't find it as much a hassle as I find it. umm, what's the word? Sorry,
English is not my native language. I'll try to explain.

I fell that I'm not being trusted. "Did you really write this?". "Are you
sure you want to post this message?". "Are you really sure?".

Yes, I'm sure. I use a long time to think about what I want to say. I use a
long time to compose my messages. And I use a long time to read and reread
my messages before submitting them.



- Allan



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"Allan Johansen" <f2k@chaotica.dk> wrote in message news:IJxH0E.110r@lugnet.com... (...) die (...) I disagree. I think NNTP is a underappreciated technology by most people. Reading content via a News Reader is as simple as reading e-mail. I really (...) (19 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)

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