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Re: Dear NNTP users,
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:04:21 GMT
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"Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:IJxLJF.1xwq@lugnet.com...
> 
> "Allan Johansen" <f2k@chaotica.dk> wrote in message
> news:IJxH0E.110r@lugnet.com...
> 
> > NNTP is, to me, an outdated technology that should simply be allowed to • die
> > out. It is cumbersome (especially with the extra checks that Lugnet
> > demand
> > before allowing user to post) and, quite frankly, not particularly
> > user-friendly.
> 
> 
> I disagree.  I think NNTP is a underappreciated technology by most people.
> Reading content via a News Reader is as simple as reading e-mail.  I
> really
> like the ability to download all of the new posts and read it offline and
> at
> my convenience.  I don't know of any web based forum which allows for
> offline reading.  I have OE configured to watch the newsgroups I care
> about.
> With one click I can see there are 5 new articles in lugnet.general, 3 in
> lugnet.trains, etc.  I don't have to go wandering around LUGNET to see
> what
> is new.  For me it is an efficiency, my computer is doing a bunch of work
> for me while I do other stuff.


Why is browsing offline important? My computer is on-line at all times
(expect when I'm sleeping, of course.).

You can read an on-line forum at your convenience too.



I actually find it rather annoying that I have to wait several minutes while
Outlook downloads the new messages. If it was an on-line forum then the
messages would be there (almost) instantly.



> I rarely participate in web based forums because I find most of them a
> pain
> to keep track of what I have read and what I haven't.  Yahoo's message
> boards (not Yahoo Groups, the message boards which they use on
> finance.yahoo.com) is the only one which I find easy to follow.  It is
> very
> clear what you have read and what you haven't.


Most forums these days use small icons to notify about new posts. There's
usually
also a timestamp denoting when the last post was made. And on top of that,
most forums alsom use e-mail to instantly notify you when a reply is made.

This is actually quite nice. I don't have to wait for Outlook to check
whether or not there're new messages.



I've got e-mail -> There's a new post.

I'v got no e-mail -> There's no new post, and I need not waste time checking
for it.



> I think RSS has gained in popularity because people tire of going to web
> sites to see if there is new content they might want to read.  While RSS
> helps (I used FeedReader too), it still suffers from not being able to
> read
> offline.  This may not be an issue for a lot of people but I find that
> when
> I traveling, particularly on an airplane, I have time to catch up on my
> LUGNET reading.


You've got a point there.



I'm curious, how many users download messages and then read them later?



> I don't find LUGNET's validation scheme to be to much hassle - it limits
> the
> spam and ensures that people are somewhat accountable for what they post.
> I
> post, I get an e-mail, I reply, my post appears on LUGNET.  Not a real big
> deal IMHO.
> 
> Mike


I don't find it as much a hassle as I find it. umm, what's the word? Sorry,
English is not my native language. I'll try to explain.

I fell that I'm not being trusted. "Did you really write this?". "Are you
sure you want to post this message?". "Are you really sure?".

Yes, I'm sure. I use a long time to think about what I want to say. I use a
long time to compose my messages. And I use a long time to read and reread
my messages before submitting them.



- Allan



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"Allan Johansen" <f2k@chaotica.dk> wrote in message news:IJxH0E.110r@lugnet.com... (...) die (...) I disagree. I think NNTP is a underappreciated technology by most people. Reading content via a News Reader is as simple as reading e-mail. I really (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)

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