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  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) One word: Ewwww! <grins, ducks and runs> ++Lar (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
This debate over cockfighting makes me wish I had been to one when I lived at home. Jorge Rodríguez rodriguez.136@osu.edu (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Mecha Legs
 
(...) I think it's at the very least considered polite to give credit. I'm not sure there's prevailing wisdom, per se. My black hopper, currently available at my brickbay site ( <grin> ), has been reverse engineered in the past. I'm not particularly (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) In kind? No. In degree, yes. At least I think so. I'm not much in the mood for gorilla meat but I've seen chickens perform tricks. Not as elaborate ones, mind you. I guess I'm saying I'm not sure gorillas are sentient. But then, I'm not sure (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Order Cancellations
 
(...) Thanks for the feedback. I believe I agree with your comments. And I doubt one could make a legal case at this time, because there are few regulations or laws (that I know of) regarding e-commerce. But this sequence of events is occuring more (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Mecha Legs
 
(...) This certainly is an appropriate display of courtesy, especially given the sensitive and occasionally nebulous nature of online copyright issues. What is the prevailing wisdom regarding reverse-engineering of online models? Dave! (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad?
 
(...) What the--?! No one told me that before! Do you have proof? I demand proof! ;-) (...) Well, I concede that cockfighting as a real-life event is much worse than Star Wars as a fictional story. However, the original debate was comparing Pokemon (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) How do we define 'sentient?' Is it different to eat a chicken than it would be to eat Koko the sign-language-using gorilla? -- jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily?" (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Order Cancellations
 
(...) There are two problems here. The first problem is that the ordering system is not properly keyed into inventory, allowing people to order items which are out of stock. The system should show you if the item is out of stock, and then allow you (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad?
 
(...) It depends what you're looking for in a storyline. Certainly some of the story is vapid, but as a redemption myth (both Han's and Vader's), the original trilogy overall has real worth. That's why, in itself, TPM is weaker than the original (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Well said. (...) I beg to differ here. How many people go to see Star Wars for the *snicker* storyline? Most everyone I know want to see the cool weapons, the cool starfighters, the cool battles, and the cool bad guys. How is this not (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Debatable -- the "good guys" essentially were armed terrorists until they won and re-wrote the history books. (...) The story line for Pokemon includes perhaps the same abount of violence. (...) Another gray area. Certainly, the aspect of Star (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) {snip a bunch} If you guys aren't going to move the topic back to Lego, can you at least move it out of lugnet.general? Thanks, eric (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Darth is the one with the split personality, thanks to Obi-Wan. Bruce (and what in the world does cockfighting have to do with movie mayhem?) (No, don't answer that, anyone, it was rhetorical) :-) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
Rearranged the order a bit. Chris said: (...) Zero-th order answer: None. To that approximation, we're in agreement. Chicken fighting is something I'd never indulge in, never bet on, and never view. Further, I'd rather my kids didn't play games that (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Building the A10 Thunderbolt "Warthog"
 
That is true. I had not thought about the metal bars, I was just thinking about the general shape. I thought someone was suggesting a 2x4-slope-from-2-dee...eep-on-top windshield as the back end of the canopy, and I thought that would be to steep (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
I still want those one planes that people have been talking about for oh the past 30-40 years, Basically it's a icbm with people strapped to a pod on the back, halfway around the world in 5 hours with minimal expense. Technically feasible, probably (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Well, I dunno. I suppose that to some small extent the Pokemon show does embody a bit of the cultural Japanese disdain towards animals (witness whaling), but it doesn't really strike me as cockfighting. The pokemon are uninjured in the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Well, there you have it. (...) I am almost as uncomfortable with those icons as I am with Pokemon. I suspect that in those cases, children run the risk of identifying with the critters and behaving more violently than they might otherwise. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) would (...) You probably weren't really expecting an itemized response, since it was mainly a thought exercize, but here one is anyway. (...) Yes. Though I don't see the Empire as being all that different from most real empires (such as the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Yeah! Just this weekend cops in my town broke up three preschool cockfighting rings, so your concerns are well justified. In addition, some local kids induced a coyote to chase a road runner off a cliff, while a rabbit was seen to thump a puma (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Cockfighting causes more pain than StarWars. But I think that comparing Pokemon to SW is a somewhat more valid and interesting situation. I guess that I think Cockfighting is really absurdly bad for two reasons. One is because it promotes the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Good question. I don't have a definitive answer but I do have some further thought starters... In Star Wars, is there a good side and a bad side? Is the simulated violence there as part of the story line? Or is the violence there merely to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Why not? I mean, what makes cockfighting more violent than, say, Star Wars? note: I feel that cockfighting is bad, but I just haven't seen a good enough explanation to justify that feeling to myself... As for justifying Pokemon, it's a game. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) I bet. (...) I bet an accident on the NJT that killed 500 people would make international news! Chris (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) Maybe the worst "aircraft disaster", since the biggest I know had a 500+ death total (crashing 747s on the ground). (...) Why? I can't see anything that decreases the safety when compared the dying with 100 other people and dying with 600 (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) That's the point I think. Selçuk (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Actually, that isn't the best way to do it. Why should I pay for your roads with my lawnmower gas? Ultimately, the best way to apportion the costs for roads might be a toll system using some kind of ID thing on the car (and such a system can (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) I don't think Airbus will decide against it. They really want to go through with this, the only possible problem they face is rejection from thier biggest (I think) shareholder, DaimlerChrysler, which owns about 30% of Airbus. Apparently, they (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) So, (...) He's a corporate flack? :-) Seriously, bigger planes do mean some changes required at the gates to load/unload but also, since the number of slots is fixed unless you build more runways and since runways cost a lot more to build than (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) Might not be important, but it might be interesting. After all, part of having a community is meeting people, right? (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) That's ridiculous. It's not like that at all. It's like meeting someone you don't know at a lego convention, and they give you their card. I've done that. It's got my name and e-mail address on it, it's small, it's convenient, it's an accepted (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) Marc, I don't understand. Should people be ashamed of where they work or what they do? (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) Cool! (...) I snipped this a bit, but I think this pseudo-quote is true to the intent. So, he's saying they're stupid and that they'll be buying some in the same breath, right? What's wrong with this picture? (...) Cool, so they can buy these (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Greg and Shiri write: (...) But predicting how it affects them is tough. I rebelled against it and basically went out of my way to do whatever peerpressure told me not to do. It was kind of a viscious circle and caused an (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
I came to much the same conclusion. Normally I avoid driving in New York, but, my SO brought a little subcompact, and there we were, outgunned on the mean streets. So we got a Jeep Cherokee. It's the smallest SUV that is still able to carry 4 tall (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How big is to big?
 
(...) What? What kind of logic is that? Suppose someone sets off a bomb in a large office tower. Do you feel safe going to work? Boeing has plans to build a double-decker as well, should Airbus decide to go through with theirs. If enough airline (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Yeah, these prices should all be rolled into the price of fuel. But, wouldn't people freak out if gas went up to $3 per gallon and the prices of all non-local goods (like 70% of groceries) rose in price by 30%? I'm really sick of people (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  How big is to big?
 
(exert taken from CNN article) "(CNN) -- The challenge for the travel industry in the next century is to accommodate an anticipated boom in tourism and commuting -- and to do so in style. Specialists say to expect bigger planes, larger ships, faster (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: Building the A10 Thunderbolt "Warthog"
 
(...) sloped (...) Note if you will the metal bars in an oval in the front of the canopy. That would be best represented by the X-Wing canopy. ~Drew "Luke" Lawrence (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) That is because they chop out anything to do with Japanese culture and anything that isn't G-rated. The end result is an absolutly awful show. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) Actually, I should add that Mercedes-Benz does sell a mini-van in Europe, the V-Class. It has not been a big hit. It uses some Sprinter and Volkswagen EuroVan/Caravelle mechanicals. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) The (...) Canadian (...) is (...) in (...) Mercedes- (...) I am sorry I didn't make it clear. I meant full-size van market, not mini-van market. The Ram Van and Ram Wagon are ending production, and it is no hearsay. It's official. I very well (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) Mark, will you STOP with these unattributed rumors/hearsay? While there is talk of bringing the Sprinter to the US according to the trade rags, it's for an entirely different market than the Caravan/Town and Country. The Sprinter is a panel (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Building the A10 Thunderbolt "Warthog"
 
Actually, I think you have it backwards. The front of the Hog's canopy is sloped steeply from the nose to the top, and the back of the canopy slopes gently from the top of the canopy to the fuselage. Chris (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) The name is not changing for 2001. They are introducing a new variant called Avalanche, which has a pick-up truck bed and "tougher" styling, but the Suburban name is staying. GMC has renamed the Suburban the Yukon XL (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) might (...) Since when? The 2000 Chevrolet Suburban is all-new and redesigned (and more fuel efficient). The GMC Suburban is now called the GMC Yukon XL. (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Actually, it is called Yukon XL, for eXtra Large. Yukon is a name that has been used on the short wheelbase Suburban (Tahoe over at Chevy) since 1993. This fall, they will also introduce to new monsters, Denali and Denali XL. (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
<snip> (...) <snip> I know a guy at work named Norm. ~Mark (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Sure they do... it's just called "Yukon" now because the marketing folks at GM decided "suburban" sounded too "soccer mom-ish" ~M (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) No, I don't think so. I just find terms like that to be signs of lazy thinking. A cute label gets put on a group by a clever radio commentator or columnist, and I can get some pleasure from that, but then the term get picked up and parroted (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
(...) Yes, well, if someone's snickering about your lego collection in class, and everyone joins in, and you shut up and never mention that again - isn't that what I was talking about originally?... Leaving lego, or at least having "dim ages", (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
(...) True, true, that is true, but though this and the supposed peer pressure are very similar, I would not quite call this peer pressure. This is just people being mean and someone adapting so they don't have to put up with it. (...) See above. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
(...) whutza subconscious? i can't seem to find mine anywhere .. :) and if it co-ordinates everything, why do i have a conscious? doesn't it defeat the purpose if you keep in mind that your subconscious is in control? if you keep it in mind, it'd (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
Well, that's an interesting standpoint. I don't think peer pressure is *only* what causes people to smoke, drink, etc, hell no. I don't think you can deny that when a class full of students snickers at someone's looks, behavior or something else, it (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) X- (...) Not at current. The system is only on the Land Rover Discovery II. It will soon be offered on the X-Series and Land Rover Range Rover and Land Rover Freelander V6. DaimlerChrysler uses a system called ESP, which helps keep the M-Class (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) in (...) Something sounds odd here, unless the situation is actually that the small child may just be grazed by the truck since it is higher off the ground. (...) <snip> (...) Is that system in any of the SUVs owned by the average person? I (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hello
 
(...) Oh, this always makes me laugh! I have very quickly learned that peer pressure does not exist. "Peer pressure" is the excuse used by people who are looking for an easy way out of something. I'll use a stereotypical example: "If you don't do (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) I don't have any fatality rates, but I do know that if a small child is hit by a truck, his chances of survival versus being hit by a car are almost three times greater. I completely forgot the reason, it has to be with the truck taking the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) might (...) Kevin, Why do you say they don't make Suburbans any more? I know they are changing the name for the 2001 models, but they still make them. (URL) if it wasn't for my commute and the fact that they cost in the high 30's I would by (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) true (...) Those and more. Cost of building the roads. True insurance costs (one thing which seems a bit wrong to me is that when the other guy is at fault, insurance covers the cost of the damage, but doesn't do anything to cover the cost of (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: SUVs (was Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?)
 
(...) big, (...) One thing I would be curious about is if there is a higher rate of fatality in humongous SUV vs humongous SUV than between say two mid-size cars (I wouldn't be surprised if two sub-compacts in a collision causes more fatalities due (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) That is not true. The idea that SUV's (btw, I don't consider Suburbans to be SUV's because they were around and well designed before yuppies destroyed^H^H^H discovered the class) are safe is purely the result of marketing them that way. Just (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Well Jeff that's an interesting way to look at things you don't agree with in life. If you see or read a word you don't like, heck just ignore the rest of the subject matter no matter if it is fact or fiction. It's attitudes like yours that (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
Sproaticus skrev i meddelandet <396F38A3.88FCD4B5@io.com>... (...) The card game is quite playable. It depends a lot on chance, but careful, strategic thinking gives you a much better chance of winning. A game does not take very long (compare that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Well, I find the idea that people are buying them, in part, because they are safer in collisions due to their mammoth size, to be a *little* disturbing. It's like an arms race, safety via momentum. Of course the more massive, better-armored (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) I see nothing wrong SUVs. People are just complaining because they are so big, and they use poor gas mileage as a "side excuse" when the fact is the average gas mileage of an SUV is going up and the biggest gas-guzzlers in the country are all (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) you're (...) Start with Mewtwo. ;-) You're pretty much limited to your starters. In Red & Blue, you can choose from Charmander (fire), Bulbasaur (grass), or Squirtle (water); your in-game rival picks after you, and gets the one that beats your (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) So which version is the best to begin with? (Or for someone who doesn't know many other Pokemon Gameboy players, so the trading aspect might not be that important?) Jeremy, do you have any suggestions? (...) with (...) I've seen screenshots, (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Absolutely right! ...It should be "Clintonisto". A "Clintonista" is usually just someone who has... You know... While wearing a raspberry beret... The kind that you find at a second-hand store... Actually, I have never before heard the term, (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James J. Trobaugh writes: The Clintonistas said the price spikes in the Midwest couldn't be I don't know why, but when I read a term like "Clintonista" it makes me want to tune out the rest of the dialog. It's like the (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Patrick and all, Folks, one more time, this is not related to LEGO anymore, it is typical environmentalist grumblings about SUV's. PLEASE DROP postings to lugnet.general. Todd, can you help here? All messages with this heading will be dropped from (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Scott, (...) I agree people who purchase such vehicles though, well within their rights, are selfish and ignorant. Not the normal kind of ignorance, but a willful ignorance of the true cost of such vehicles. The US does not fight wars in the mideast (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Not disagreeing with you, just giving a different if not rambling point of view... Barbara and I drive a Chevy 3/4-ton, extended cab, short bed pickup; and a Ford Escort -- with the commuting emphasis leaning towards the pickup. Our commute time to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Travis, Many of us would agree with you. Driving in Los Angeles is complicated enough without adding cumbersome, useless SUVs onto our freeways and city streets. You can't see through them, or around them, and they tend to cut off anything (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Scott E. Sanburn wrote in message <000f01bfedc4$bc6260...d0@SES>... (...) WHO'S TO BLAME FOR HIGH GAS PRICES? The Environmental Protection Agency, that's who. We learn this from a June 5th memo written for Energy Secretary Bill Richardson (you (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Travis, (...) worried (...) (like (...) the (...) you (...) That's great. (...) don't get (...) There are always other jobs. It is a thriving economy, after all. (...) I blame the government, sir. No hee hee's needed. Scott S. -- (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Folks, This is drifting off into a SUV debate, and not a lugnet general discussion. Please drop general if you have no LEGO issues to discuss. FUT off.topic.debate please Scott S. -- Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) an (...) Pokemon, (...) You need the cart, but not the GB. And if you want to trade with anyone else who has the GB version, then you'll need an additional cart interface thingy, which (I believe) is another $30. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) He did state using a SUV as a "commuter" was stupid. I'd tend to agree. Of course I drive an hour to work, so 15 MPG won't work for me 'cause I don't get paid that much. Also I want to blame those types of vehicles for why our gas prices have (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) One of the things that has kept me from buying Pokemon Stadium is that it seems heavily geared towards people who own a Game Boy and the Pokemon game for GB- the "rental" Pokemon in Stadium are always described as "inferior" to Pokemon you (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) with (...) Well...The 64 game is just the fighting aspects, with none of the (admittedly limited) RPG elements from the Game Boy version. It does let you use your GB pokemon in the 64 environment, which is cool, and offers a better GUI for (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) ;-) (...) as (...) Because they're totally inocuous, whle quotes are something that someone went out of their way to add. (...) Actually, I find really thought provoking quotes quite nice. But I can seriously do without Monty Python quotes. (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) wouldn't (...) I'd like to hear more about the idea of true costs. What would be included in the true costs of automobile ownership? The cost of maintaining roads? The cost of pollution? -- Jeff <jthompson@esker.com> "Float on a river, forever (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
(...) Well, you're right. However I will say that I wish we hadn't gotten our Durango, it's a gashog, and I'd rather have spent the extra gas money on something else. Getting Josette to drive the Stratus (which get 35 mpg driven correctly) is a (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: What age does buying lego become embarrassing?
 
Kevin, (...) purchases, (...) theirs. (...) make (...) your (...) Funny how with one sentence you say you should not worry about what other people think about purchases, and then in the next sentence, you are worried about other people's purchases. (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) The reason for different mosters in different version is pretty simple- you're supposed to buy one and trade (via the Link Cable) with other players. Pokemon was Nintendo's answer to the Tamagotchi trend. The advantage that Pokemon had was (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Whew! (...) The cartoon basically simulates cockfighting, which is an image that I would prefer not to idealize for the kids. Chris (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Heh Atop my monitor: Gengar, Sandslash, and Lickitongue (who I joke looks as if he wants to grace the cover of the next Rolling Stones album). I'm hoping to win a bid on a Marril ("Pikablu") figure on Ebay at some point. :^) My gripe about the (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: smokers sueing tobacco producers
 
(...) I think if there is any merit to suits, it's by non smokers rather than smokers. Our national health costs more because smokers are passing their increased costs on to us, which isn't fair to us, of course. (However, one could argue that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Make that 7, (either that or my son and the rest of his classmates are, on average, brighter than average, which is entirely possible, given where we live.) because that's when Nik started hugely enjoying the GB game. The card game is playable (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: wild west creations
 
(...) Indeed. John Brown would have brought down slavery at a much lower cost in human life, I think, had he been allowed to do so (and had he made some wiser choices about how to go about procuring arms). With the benefit of not having trampled (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: smokers sueing tobacco producers
 
(...) I don't think "faceless" has anything to do with it. These are just people who want to unload the responsibility for their actions in exchange for money. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  smokers sueing tobacco producers
 
Hi all, The big headline at cnn.com is about the Florida lawsuit against big tobacco. Can anyone justify this? I am among the folks who think that since everyone knows smoking is dangerous, so how can the producers be held accountable for the (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) I discovered that I actually like Pokemon. Anyone hear an echo? :-, (...) It started from that, yes. Barbara and I have also recently started buying into some of the cooler miniatures; I currently have Cubone sitting Shiva on my computer (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: wild west creations
 
(...) For what it's worth, you also don't have to be a Southerner to support the Confederacy. I, for instance, support the right of states to secede from the union. And believe that Lincoln's government violated the spirit and the letter of the (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Building the A10 Thunderbolt "Warthog"
 
(...) Some people unkindly say I'm not that bright, but... I'm sort of missing why this is in ***off-topic***.debate??? ++Lar Assistant Chief exorcizer (after Frank) of incorrectly set followups and general Lugnet nuisance extraordinare... (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: This will get someone upset...
 
(...) He he! Good one! (...) Why? All quotes or just silly ones? :-) (I trimmed everything except debate from the followups, which I recommend to everyone involved in this to emulate) A good thought provoking quote is a good thing. It's when they (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)


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