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Re: Why is cockfighting bad?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:35:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> > Most everyone I know want to see the cool weapons, the cool
> > starfighters, the cool battles, and the cool bad guys. How is this not
> > entertainment based upon the suffering of others?
> Certainly a part of the entertainment value can be described as being based
> on the suffering of some, but you're aware that Star Wars is fiction, right?
What the--?! No one told me that before! Do you have proof? I demand
proof! ;-)
> There's an absolute difference between the cruelty of real-world cockfighting
> and a fictional depiction of a lightsaber fight. Any healthy, well-adjusted
> individual can distinguish between onscreen representations of violence and
> real-world cruelty; to equate one with the other is inaccurate and, arguably,
> naive.
Well, I concede that cockfighting as a real-life event is much worse than Star
Wars as a fictional story. However, the original debate was comparing Pokemon
(as viewed as a cockfighting analogue) and Star Wars (as a...what? a
historical reenactment?), with their relative levels of violence, etc. BTW,
did you know that both Pokemon and Star Wars are fictional? (Sorry, couldn't
resist. :-)
FWIW, I don't have an issue with the lightsabre duels on Star Wars. I don't
really have much of an issue with any of the violence in Star Wars, except that
the battle scenes seemed way too simplistic, happy-go-lucky, and with not
nearly enough screaming and gore.
obofftopicposit: If violence is shown with more negative results, then it
would serve a more useful function (as a deterrent) within entertainment,
rather than just be glorified eye candy.
Cheers,
- jsproat
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| (...) It depends what you're looking for in a storyline. Certainly some of the story is vapid, but as a redemption myth (both Han's and Vader's), the original trilogy overall has real worth. That's why, in itself, TPM is weaker than the original (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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