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Subject:	Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:21:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes: > Christopher Weeks wrote: > > The cartoon basically simulates cockfighting, which is an image that I would > > prefer not to idealize for the kids. > > Why not? I mean, what makes cockfighting more violent than, say, Star Wars? Good question. I don't have a definitive answer but I do have some further thought starters... In Star Wars, is there a good side and a bad side? Is the simulated violence there as part of the story line? Or is the violence there merely to entertain? In cockfighting, is one side the good guys? Or are both sides equally amoral? Also, is it moral to force animals to fight in the first place? How is fighting different than eating animals, which lots of people do? Is it OK to be avoidably cruel? Is it OK to cause hurt to an animal if it's unavoidable? Do we have a responsibility to property that is innate because of the characteristics of the property? Do the ends justify the means? How is cockfighting different than boxing? Contrast a rooster with a boxer. I have my answers to these, which I bet everyone that has been paying attention can predict, and which give the conclusion I expected they would. ++Lar

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) would (...) You probably weren't really expecting an itemized response, since it was mainly a thought exercize, but here one is anyway. (...) Yes. Though I don't see the Empire as being all that different from most real empires (such as the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) Debatable -- the "good guys" essentially were armed terrorists until they won and re-wrote the history books. (...) The story line for Pokemon includes perhaps the same abount of violence. (...) Another gray area. Certainly, the aspect of Star (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) Why not? I mean, what makes cockfighting more violent than, say, Star Wars? note: I feel that cockfighting is bad, but I just haven't seen a good enough explanation to justify that feeling to myself... As for justifying Pokemon, it's a game. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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