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Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
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Date: 
Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:13:39 GMT
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Christopher Weeks wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
Why not?  I mean, what makes cockfighting more violent than, say, Star Wars?
I guess that I think Cockfighting is really absurdly bad for two
reasons.  One is because it promotes the enjoyment of pain, suffering, and
humiliation in the human participants.  I think that many of the problems in
our world are rooted in the enjoyment of the suffering of others.  The
other reason is that it is patently immoral to force critters to fight to
death for my amusement.

Well said.

While StarWars contained the depiction of a certain
amount of suffering, it was not the main point of the movie, and it was largely
an obsticle set in place to be overcome by the characters.

I beg to differ here.  How many people go to see Star Wars for the *snicker*
storyline?  Most everyone I know want to see the cool weapons, the cool
starfighters, the cool battles, and the cool bad guys.  How is this not
entertainment based upon the suffering of others?

note:  I feel that cockfighting is bad, but I just haven't seen a good enough
explanation to justify that feeling to myself...
Are you not opposed to slavery and murder, or do you just think that chickens
don't count?

Oh yes, I am opposed to slavery and murder.  I don't think the chickes
necessarily count because, well, they're dumb food animals.  Likewise, I don't
have a fit when I step on an ant or even when I hit an animal on the road.
OTOH, see my reply to Larry's message -- I think it's still wrong, but due to
psychological reasons, and karma.

Cheers,
- jsproat

--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@io.com> ~~~ http://www.io.com/~jsproat/
Uh, two.  Including this one.



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(...) It depends what you're looking for in a storyline. Certainly some of the story is vapid, but as a redemption myth (both Han's and Vader's), the original trilogy overall has real worth. That's why, in itself, TPM is weaker than the original (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) Cockfighting causes more pain than StarWars. But I think that comparing Pokemon to SW is a somewhat more valid and interesting situation. I guess that I think Cockfighting is really absurdly bad for two reasons. One is because it promotes the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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