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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Greg Majewski writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Shiri Dori writes:
> > I don't think you can deny that when a class full of students
> > snickers at someone's looks, behavior or something else, it is likely to
> > affect the person who's being snickered at.
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> True, true, that is true, but though this and the supposed peer pressure are
> very similar, I would not quite call this peer pressure. This is just people
> being mean and someone adapting so they don't have to put up with it.
Yes, well, if someone's snickering about your lego collection in class, and
everyone joins in, and you shut up and never mention that again - isn't that
what I was talking about originally?... Leaving lego, or at least having "dim
ages", because of "peer pressure"? (call it whatever you want... doesn't
matter.)
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> One otehr way is to do something that people will look up
> to you for. I found my niche in sports. Yours may be in art or music, but if
> you find a group of people who think you *are* worth something, then it makes
> everything seem all the better.
It certainly does. What I wrote above is not my current situation, actually;
that's how I felt in 7th grade. In 8th and 9th grade, I found my niche and my
own friends, but I had to leave. (I can tell you that was HARD.)
> I'm straying away from the issue now, but I
> did read your Age Limitations post, and I can say that I have been where you
> said you were.
Like I said - the above's not my problem here. Here, no one notices me at ALL,
for good OR bad. Not sure what's worse.
> > Peer pressure isn't just about the "big" issues. Your every reaction in
> > class,
> > or in society in general, is affected by what other people will say or think.
>
> Yes, that is because we live in a world where people have minds, and if you
> didn't react to what anybody said, you'd most likely end up getting lynched.
> You have to agree with something or else you're screwed, to but it flatly.
Heh, of course, society is a very complex thing. But there are things you
*could* do without being "lynched", and yet you don't do it because you
wouldn't want people to think badly about you. Because a society has norms (I
think that's how you say that in english...), and if you don't follow them,
you don't fit in. And people will think "badly" about you, and/or won't want
to associate with you, and you don't want *that*, now, do you? So you avoid
these things, and presto! Peer pressure, society pressure, call it what you
want. That's what our society is based on, Greg.
-Shiri
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Greg and Shiri write: (...) But predicting how it affects them is tough. I rebelled against it and basically went out of my way to do whatever peerpressure told me not to do. It was kind of a viscious circle and caused an (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) True, true, that is true, but though this and the supposed peer pressure are very similar, I would not quite call this peer pressure. This is just people being mean and someone adapting so they don't have to put up with it. (...) See above. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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