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  Re: "What Will You Make?" Event Kits!
 
(...) I don't know! First you think I've offended LEGO Australia so much with my attitude that they won't assist with events, and now you think I can read their minds? (...) Approaches for assitance! Did you not read the (URL) post>? Here, let me (...) (21 years ago, 1-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 25 things we know now...
 
(...) Well, at least I'm proud that I'm an American...though I don't (or won't) trust our government one bit. That evaporated a long time ago... (URL) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "CHRISTMAS THROUGH THE EYES OF A CHILD" CONTEST
 
(...) Indeed :-) But rest assured, I have no plan on continuing this thread anyway. Terry (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "CHRISTMAS THROUGH THE EYES OF A CHILD" CONTEST
 
Silly me didn't set the followups. (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "CHRISTMAS THROUGH THE EYES OF A CHILD" CONTEST
 
(...) I don't think there's any getting around the fact that Christmas is a religious holiday. I know that there are lots of other holidays that many people celebrate around the winter solstice. However, Christmas happens to be one of the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "CHRISTMAS THROUGH THE EYES OF A CHILD" CONTEST
 
(...) Well, it SORT of is a religious holiday. Not everyone that celebrates at that time of year (winter solstice) does so for religious reasons. We don't. Also I don't think Terry was objecting per se, just saying he didn't plan to participate in (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "What Will You Make?" Event Kits!
 
(...) Snip! (...) Why would LEGO Australia reply with such a response? What prompted it? (...) The impression I get from your original message is a very sarcastic one, especially when you say "their response has ranged from the negative to the very (...) (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: "What Will You Make?" Event Kits!
 
(...) Just noticed a typo in my original response to Bryan's ludicrous post: (...) This sentence: (...) Should have gone after the next sentence. (...) And still I say 'Huh?' Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (...) (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: "What Will You Make?" Event Kits!
 
(...) Huh? Do you mean my attitude is the reason that their response is negative? Or do you mean something else? Maybe I didn't make the statement clearly. Here goes: In the past, Australians have approached LEGO Australia to support the public (...) (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: "What Will You Make?" Event Kits!
 
(...) With an attitude like that, no wonder their response is negative! -Bryan (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Halliburton's Deals Greater Than Thought
 
Halliburton's Deals Greater Than Thought (URL) Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Cheney, has won contracts worth more than $1.7 billion under Operation Iraqi Freedom and stands to make hundreds of millions more dollars under (...) (21 years ago, 28-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
There's more in here too... It's always about one person or group morally getting over on others. What I mean is that while few would claim that the 10 point memo monument shocks the decency standards of the community, we'd have dozens of people (...) (21 years ago, 27-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote: I take it, from your exegesis of the Amendment, that you'd have no problem with a state legislature outlawing Christianity, am I correct? Or how about a state legislature that requires Scientology to (...) (21 years ago, 27-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
(...) The currency itself is unconstitutional. And if only it were the Dept. of the Treasury issuing the "coin" of our realm -- instead it is issued by the Federal Reserve. Not the same thing at all. See the U.S. Constitution Art. I, sections 8 and (...) (21 years ago, 27-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
(...) Ahem. There is only one item in the Constitution of the United States that has any direct bearing on this as a religious matter, and that's the First Amemdment. To quote the appropriate section: "Congress shall make no law respecting an (...) (21 years ago, 27-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  CEOs Profit from Layoffs, Pension Shortfalls, and Tax Dodges
 
CEOs Profit from Layoffs, Pension Shortfalls, and Tax Dodges (PRESS RELEASE FROM UNITED FOR A FAIR ECONOMY & INSTITUTE FOR POLICY STUDIES) (URL) Congress fueled runaway CEO pay and helped U.S. companies avoid paying their fair share of taxes by (...) (21 years ago, 27-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
(...) Jesus did not tell you to respect to authority, he said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and render unto to God that which is God's." (quoting from memory here) In my opinion, and probably a lot of readers' opinions, that's a very (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moore foolishness than ever
 
(...) As a Christian, I'm 'outraged' about this situation. I mean, in the Bible it tells us to 'respect' the authority of the land. So not only is what Roy doing 'unconstitutional', but is going contrary to sound Biblical teachings. I'm not a (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Moore foolishness than ever
 
I've resisted introducing this topic because we've been over it before, and the main issue is, to me, entirely resolved and crystal clear. But (URL) Roy Moore> still keeps going on about his unconstitutional monument to his hubris. So what's the (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
(...) ... by another "maniac" who is developing 1st strike nukes. ;) That's the true irony. Scott A (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
(...) I love irony... Like Dubya and co. trying to pin 9/11 on SH when it was AQ and OBL, and then trying to pin the bombing of the UN in Iraq on AQ and OBL when it'll probably be found that the cohorts of SH did it--sure, I'll even give the 'they (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
(...) The hyprocrisy runneth over... Why worry about a merely incipient program in another country, when we could just start by disarming ourselves? "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
(...) Point taken. But don't confuse stated purposes with actual purposes! (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
(...) I still can't get over the sheer irony of how often people use the Nuclear Disarmament symbol to protest sending troops with the stated purpose of preventing some maniac from being able to develop a nuclear arsenal... (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It must be just me...
 
I'll be wearing some of these from now on: (5 URLs) You might want to visit: (3 URLs) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  It must be just me...
 
Or are the conservatives of America all doing their best to raise a stink about anythinkg to deflect attention from the man in charge. Between the California recall (and the resultant circus thereof) to the 10 commandments in a courthouse, and then (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
(...) <snip> (...) I think I missed the smiley--it was like, "Oh I'm calling people who call people "idiots", idiots", not realizing that, in that process, therefore I'm an idiot--see, funny, eh? Well, maybe not so much now... ;) Dave K (21 years ago, 22-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
(...) I can't argue with that. I really should have very carefully qualified that first statement and probably omitted the word idiot (yeah, probably). Far from being an idiot, Terry often has off-topic.debate opinions and ideas that I respect and (...) (21 years ago, 22-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Maggie Cambron wrote: <snip> (...) I like it! If it's just not that big a deal, why get chagrin about it? Or, as we found out in a WKRP ep. when Les said, "I couldn't care less about your stupid award!" Well, if one could (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
(...) I call it the 'movie critic' or 'Bay Area Radio Talk Show Host' syndrome, a malady suffered generally by bright and witty people who cannot resist short quips and zingers, even though the resulting posts are less than tactful. The small (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Papenfuss wrote: <snip> (...) Where did I hear this--if everyone sang the same tune, did the same thing, etc, it would be monotony. When people do their own thing, and we all do different things, it can be cacaphony, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  You don't like what I like - you are a.....
 
I just wanted to throw this out here to see what people think about this... When somebody does not like something that I may care for I really have no problem with that. I know this world is made up of many types of people with many types of likes (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Spinnage from Dubya
 
(...) You're probably right, he's probably a shoo-in and he's pretty LCD all right, but every time I think I've seen the worst politician yet, politicians prove me wrong. Sigh. (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hi Dave....
 
(...) It's probably a combination of things. They have converters for that medival metric electricity, but it's the convertion factor we forget about. If you check it today, 50 up and running servers is equal to 1.65 digital answering machines. Try (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Spinnage from Dubya
 
Yeah, I didn't put it in... but we all know it to be true so it's redundant... DU... what a great site! Again I ask, is there a conservative couterpoint to this site? Just wondering... From (URL) most important thing is for us to find Osama bin (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hi Dave....
 
(...) This sounds like a lure to get me to rant about the power outage and the fact that it was started somewhere outside of Ontario..... Its not going to work, I will not get sucked into reading O.T.D..... Even though it was that same outage that (...) (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hi Dave....
 
(...) It's because you use that crazy metric electricity. Dave! (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hi Dave....
 
(...) Nope. No one here but us scarecrows... So why is it taking Ontario so long to get their grid back up to snuff? (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Hi Dave....
 
Just seeing if Dave K is reading.... (21 years ago, 21-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) But what doesn't the guy misquote, eh? :) (...) I'm not sure about voters, but the population is 63% white, 26% black (higher than national average), 5% Asian, and 6% Hispanic ((URL)). I don't know how to go about calculating the areas of (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) I grew up with two for parents... and look what that did to me. (...) No apology is necessary where no offense is taken, and I figured that if I wanted to post here where the numbers are decidedly against me, I better have thick skin anyway! (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Good examples: the Networking professor who asked me what Novell was (in 1993, when it was the only viable PC-based server NOS) and the Abstract Algebra professor who made errors calculating student grades. You can subpoena my lawyer for their (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Too bad Bush added the line, "...Against any threat, real, imagined, or constructed out of thin air." :-) (...) The majority of voters in the DC area are black - whether or not they are bureasucrats and government employees I couldn't say, but (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Ah, the perils of failing to include the 8^) Seriously, I'm not terribly caught up in the real-worldliness of PhDs, though I admit that the cliche about absentminded professors kind of gets on my nerves, too. (...) Hmm. That's interesting, and (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Gore is okay -- not great, just okay. I find the poltical agenda of his wife Tipper annoying though... Bush is an enemy to the people. Simple as that. Anyone that cannot see that fact doesn't understand, or perhaps value, our system of govt. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Dave, that was awesome. Though honestly I think you're taking this a bit too seriously. (...) Actually, while that's a good theory, I'm not sure it's exactly true. I recently heard the stats on ... uh... Maine or New Hampshire's (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) House... LEGO... Nice view... (URL) and if you have the patience to wait for it to load--Grr!! Going to have to figure out why is soooo slow! Know what I'm doing this weekend!) Things are looking up! Thanks for the well wishes! Take care, Dave (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) If you truly think that he's doing a decent job, then I agree that there is nothing I can say to you that would make a difference. (...) Be careful with your misattributions. I *wondered* how many other Conservatives might share Rove's (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) What's the point? You dislike Bush, I think he's doing a decent job, there's no common ground on the issue to make it worth discussing. (...) Red herring--bringing up a quote by one conservative and attributing it to all. It is pretty funny, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) That's what makes me mad, that other people are making me waste water because they know better than me what my situation is! (...) According to the plumber I consulted, the money would be better spent on a pressure system. The irony is that I (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Sure is. I mean no disrespect by not replying to all of your original message, and will do so still if you feel it's worthwhile--but I get the feeling the horse we're beating may be a little beyond dead! (...) I was thinking last night about (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Sorry to hear that--here's hoping things work out well for you in the end! Best regards, Carl (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) It takes arrogance to think that you can waste more water than other people. What makes you so special? Even if there is no potable water shortage in your area, areas nearby may be stressed. (...) Or you unscrew the clamp from your wallet and (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) It is perfectly okay. It was indeed, getting to be a lot. (...) There! We don't have to agree to disagree! We can agree to agree. (...) Oh, hey, does this mean I've lost my standing in the international Hubris Society? ;-) (...) Teddy was (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
First, an apology: real life interferes with a lengthier reply on your message on things that we will never agree on; sorry for the lengthy snips. In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: (lengthy snip) (...) Hear, hear! (...) Many (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Although I am generally hesitant to dismiss sources as biased (since to do so does not automatically invalidate the assertions of such a source), this website has been widely debunked as a distributor of pro-industry, pro-conservative (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Little from column A and a little from column B Was renting for many many years, and finally decided to buy a house... And this home buying decision was promptly made right after a long term relationship faltered. Some say getting out was (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Then you're either single, or lucky--I can't get the zoning committee to more than my office and a small part of the bonus room for mine! Best regards, Carl (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) See my reply to your reply. (...) You're welcome. And I notice that you didn't attempt to refute my answer. (...) It's been a while, so perhaps you've forgotten. Here's what you wrote in your previous (URL) post>: That’s my biggest problem (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Virtually all of the Supreme Court justices have a liberal, conservative or morderate label attached to them, so it seems I have easily refuted Goldberg in all of a few seconds. As to Tribe, who is not a member of the Supreme Court, and thus (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) You can find it at: (URL) if you can understand more than half of it that's more than I can, without a degree in psychology! The article regards Mussolini & Hitler as conservatives for the scope of the study. For example (p. 342): (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) DOn't worry about that--gotcha covered--the entire basement is now dedicated to my LEGO endeavours! Stop by sometime and have a boo! Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) And I'm not a moron who believes that nothing we do on this planet affects the world, or that we should only think of next week instead of next year, next century, next decade, which is another reason that I'm not a complete libertarian. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Did you read the article, or did you access the actual study? If you've only read the article (as, admittedly, I have), then you've misunderstood it. Nowhere does the article claim that Mussolini is conservative. Rather, it identifies (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) Whereas I'm not 'chicken little' who believes that if we don't start recycling every single item and stop driving cars right now the earth is going to spontaneously die in the very near (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) See my other reply to you. (...) Thanks for clearing that up. I really appreciate it. (...) I'm condemning them for their arrogance, not their education! It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no more than (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Showing that they have an agenda: what is their comparable study on the psychological causes of liberalism? It starts from an inferred premise that liberalism is simply right, and there must be deficiencies in conservatives to make them (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) For the last time, can we lay this red herring to rest? The issue is not "what does 'is' mean in casual parlance?" but rather "what is the implication of 'is' according to the accepted and rigid strictures of legal discourse as established in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Never meant to imply that it excluded anyone else. I tend to lean towards libertarianism, and there go I but for a couple of reservations. First, I can't stomach the de-criminalize all drugs argument. Some drugs are too bad (harmful to health) (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) First of all, you're inferring an underlying agenda simply because you don't like the results of the study. To verify the presence of an agenda, you have to do more than simply object to the findings. Secondly, where in the article to you see (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) I think the belief in the 'sacredness of human life' applies to more than conservatives' I've been told that I'm a Canadian Liberal, but I 'believe' in the sacredness of life. Whether the other points are 'just conservative', i.e. smaller (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) I love the part where Hitler and Mussolini are termed conservatives. They believed in the cornerstones of conservatism, smaller government, free markets, less regulation, the sacredness of human life, etc. That just shows the agenda behind the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) True, but it's very difficult to refute Goldberg's claims in the book. He makes several good points, such as: 1) Why conservatives are always labelled and liberals are not, e.g., why it's always "conservative" Antonin Scalia but never (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 25 things we know now...
 
Oh, as an aside, I'm going to quantify it every time-- Dubya the moron... Dubya the moron... Actually that kinda works... comes off smooth to the typing and smooth to the saying... Dubya the moron... Who's that knocking at my door? Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  25 things we know now...
 
Right from DU-- (URL) of the 25 things listed, all of which are scary enuf... For the first time *ever*, I'm glad y'all have yer guns in yer house--when the next election happens, and y'all come to the realization that Dubya the moron bamboozled the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Alas, Bruce hasn't discussed anything about it, other than to ask a leading question and say that he won't provide any more information about it! (...) I don't think it could be characterized as a close friendship in any way. They associated (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) but it can't. "simple" physics determines the properties of matter. "simple" physics determine what will happen when you remove the control rods from the reactor- either it speeds up, slows down, or does nothing. The design of TRIGA is such (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) By being offensive. Have you stopped beating your wife? ;p James (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Heh, I guess I'd agree about the spin they put on the write-up. After all, see how I called it "decisiveness"? You can take "decisive" either positively or negatively. Up to you as the reader. But "fear", "aggression", and "intolerance"? Those (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) 8^) I don't give a lot of credence to interpretive personality assessments, such as psychoanalysis, palmistry, or Myers-Briggs tests, since such tests seem generally to reveal more about the expectations of the reviewers than about the actual (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Huh. Looks to me like a souped-up personality test indicating 'decisiveness'. There's $1.2m that they coulda done for free. Although granted that decisive people themsleves would be less convinced by such a study unless it had big numbers and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(URL) I knew it!> Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) A long while back, I was driving home one night and I just happened to be behind a rig hauling propane. Well, the light goes red up ahead of the rig so he starts putting on his brakes. The trailer full of propane starts skewing sideways so he (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) Natural gas storage is a pretty serious one. Back a while ago, the Navy wanted to station some nuclear vessels in Boston. People were all up in arms about the dangers. Someone pointed out that the natural gas facility in South Boston was an (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) So now here we are a few days after the fact and a few things are becoming clearer (politically) To start (and I have no idea of this is going to be a one point rant or a many point rant so I'll start by saying 'to start', but there may be no (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) And what if something else accidentally happened, that changed the properties of the absorbing elements? Or what if a terrorist figured out a way to do the above? Or what if it's effectiveness changed drastically after the first 2 days? What (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) Um...no. The reactor is called "TRIGA", and is located in Torry Pines, at General Atomic(s?) site. It CANNOT expode, or melt down. Physics dictate how anything will act, and it WILL NOT explode/PCI, no matter what you do with it- remove the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Power links
 
Thanks for the links, Chris. I've already read some diagonally, and intend to continue to do so over the week. I feel the need to clarify something, though: I am not against the use of any power source "per se", and declaredly for the highest (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Power links
 
Oops, I meant to include links. Read the basics about fast breeder reactors at (URL) about the Integral Fast Reactor at (URL) and (URL) a brief nuclear energy FAQ with good links at (URL) about some considerations that go into when to and not to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Power (was: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities)
 
There's a bunch of stuff I wanted to comment on so I'm just rolling it together here. I'll also preface with the clear statement of my stance: I am part of cult of alternative energy. I have done the research needed to completely back off the grid. (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) I'm curious of what conditions you considered in your maths. (...) It is true that the consumption is greatly reduced at night time, which is not to say electricity is not produced or used at all. In fact, much of the electricity generated at (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) OK, that's great. But how much do you think it would cost you to cover your house in enough panels to just break even on energy consumption? If over $10K, what's the point, except the feeling of self-reliance (nothing wrong with that), or the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
[snip] (...) Well I have done the math it would save my household about $10,000 over the course of the solar panels lifetime versus the current electric bill. (...) Well my house has a gas generator for back-up power already. It is slightly more (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  John Poindexter (was Re: TIA (was Re: A serious clone question)
 
How does the right justify this guy? He's Mr. Secret Government! (URL) Mr. Poindexter was indicted on March 16, 1988 on seven federal felony charges stemming from the Iran-Contra scandal. The counts included participating in a criminal conspiracy (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) One book may be a revelation, or it could be a disgruntled whiner. It may be correct for the situation he was in, but not for the industry at large. It may even be correct for the industry at large, but by itself, it would be hard to draw that (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) And extremely costly. Consider that by the time the solar panels would require replacement, they still wouldn't have paid off their initial cost. Why else do you think non-oil producing countries have not implemented the system? It's not as if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) The solar panels I am referring to are BASED on technology NASA created for solar panel use and construction. A typical home shingled in solar panels would generate enough power to operate lights and small appliances in overcast and light (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I regret to say I don't know any more than you on this, the word is unfamiliar to me. Rest assured, I'll look into it and let you know ASAP what I find. (...) You're guessing correctly: racism is based on race, xenophoby on passport (to put it (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I really can’t argue with that, you are quite correct, although I lived for a while in a city called La Habra, I still have no idea what that was supposed to mean in Spanish, Abra I think (...) I looked xenophobic up on dictionary.com to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) The sold portion is small when compared to the conquered portion, as you know. In any case, the main cities are not called St Francis, The Angels, or Sacrament: so you can't deny that Mexico has shaped what you know as California now. If (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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