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Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
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Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:53:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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Demonstrate this, please! Instead of arguing your point, you are repeating
it, and you are thereby simply assuming your conclusion. Since the article
did not mention the researchers’ agenda, you are only able to infer it, based
on your interpretation of their listed conclusions. You are, in effect,
forming your hypothesis (ie, that the researchers have an anti-Bush bias) and
bending your data to fit that hypothesis (ie, you assume the existence of
data that demonstrates the researchers’ bias).
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See my other reply to you.
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Out of curiosity, how is Bush both a moron and capable of complex nefarious
plots to benefit Enron and undertake a massive campaign of deception to the
world community, Congress, and the American people? Make up your mind.
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False dilemma. In this example, Bush is considered a simpleton figurehead at
the crest of a coordinated and well-organized effort to achieve certain ends,
namely pro-oil, pro-industry, and pro-Right. It is entirely possible both
that Bush is a moron and that Bush’s administration is capable of complex,
nefarious plots. Further, I would submit that both have been ably
demonstrated to date.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I really appreciate it.
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Strawman, strawman, strawman.
Here’s a quote for you to consider, before you condemn liberals for their
education: “As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be
too much of a good thing” Karl Rove, a senior advisor for George W. Bush,
“The Daily Texan”, March 19, 2001
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I’m condemning them for their arrogance, not their education!
It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush, and the fine for a plumber who installs one
that violates that is $25,000. That regularly leads to incomplete cleansing of
the bowl and clogs in my house. The solution for either requires multiple
flushes. Or, my solution now: hold the handle down until the tank fully
empties, using far more than the alloted 1.6 gallons of water.
Sounds good (we’re saving the environment!), doesn’t work (I waste more water
flushing the (cursed) things than I save from the low-flush-volume). And
there’s no recourse to it, unless I drive to Canada, buy some real toilets, and
install them myself. Arrogance at work--we know better than you.
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That’s a fine summation of the Dubya administration in general and the
Ridge/Ashcroft machine in particular. What’s your point?
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That someone wanting to do something “for my own good” should probably check
with me first, rather than following the dictates of their conscience that they
just know better than me what’s best for me.
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That is witnessing, not debate. If I strapped you to a box-spring and
tortured you to death over a period of 96 hours, I’d argue that it would
likewise be better than crashing a plane into an office building. Do you
therefore advocate the Schuler-96-hour Torture Alternative as a proper course
of action? If not, then please explain the relevance of your examples above.
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Sorry, you lost me. Please clarify... I’m a dumb conservative who is intolerant
of ambiguity and not capable of dealing with complex situations.
Best regards,
Carl
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