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Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
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Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:28:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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First of all, you’re inferring an underlying agenda simply because you don’t
like the results of the study. To verify the presence of an agenda, you
have to do more than simply object to the findings. Secondly, where in the
article to you see evidence that the researchers altered their data?
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Showing that they have an agenda: what is their comparable study on the
psychological causes of liberalism? It starts from an inferred premise that
liberalism is simply right, and there must be deficiencies in conservatives
to make them believe conservative ideas.
They altered their data first and foremost by terming Hitler and Mussolini as
right-wing conservatives.
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Did you read the article, or did you access the actual study? If you’ve only
read the article (as, admittedly, I have), then you’ve misunderstood it.
Nowhere does the article claim that Mussolini is conservative. Rather, it
identifies Mussolini, Hitler, Reagan, and Limbaugh to suffer “from the same
affliction.” That’s a very different statement. If you accept that
conservatism is an affliction, then I suppose your objection has some merit, but
otherwise you’re formulating a straw man again.
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Tax dollars were spent to ignore bad science.
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Not quite. Tax dollars were spent so that the Bush administration could omit
data found to be inconvenient. The science is not bad; the overwhelming
consensus in the scientific community is that the evidence shows that global
warming is on the rise, and the predominant consensus is that, based on
available evidence, fossil fuel emissions contribute to an increase in
greenhouse gases, which in turn contributes to global warming.
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Measures of atmospheric
temperatures since the 1970s show no change or slight cooling. Measurable
warming in the 20th century occurred primarily before 1940. Most greenhouse
gas emissions occurred after 1940.
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Citation, please. Atmospheric temperature is only one of a spectrum of
indicators, including drought levels, ocean temperature, and changes in polar
ice. To dismiss the issue of global warming based on a single factor is bad
science.
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And consider that your your tax
dollars are also being used to fund studies to allow the logging industry to
cut down chunks of Federal forests, and your tax money is being used to pay
Halliburton billions to rebuild a country that your tax dollars helped to
destroy.
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I’ve never understood the liberal hatred of logging companies.
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Straw man. I have no reason to support a caricture of my position.
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As for Iraq, there’s a lot more to build than was there be destroyed and then
rebuilt.
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Red herring. You don’t address my point that tax dollars are paying for both the
destruction (with ordnance manufactured by for-profit corporations) and the
reconstruction (by for-profit corporations).
Dave!
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