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Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
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Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:06:52 GMT
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CCN wrote:

I'm condemning them for their arrogance, not their education!

It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush, and the fine for a plumber who installs one
that violates that is $25,000.

It takes arrogance to think that you can waste more water than other people.  What
makes you so special?  Even if there is no potable water shortage in your area,
areas nearby may be stressed.

That regularly leads to incomplete cleansing of
the bowl and clogs in my house.  The solution for either requires multiple
flushes.  Or, my solution now: hold the handle down until the tank fully
empties, using far more than the alloted 1.6 gallons of water.

Sounds good (we're saving the environment!), doesn't work (I waste more water
flushing the (cursed) things than I save from the low-flush-volume).  And
there's no recourse to it, unless I drive to Canada, buy some real toilets, and
install them myself.

Or you unscrew the clamp from your wallet and spend the money on a 1.6 flush toilet
that works.  There are many out there, you just may have to pay more for them than
the cheap crap (<g>) you have now.

I've MAYBE had to flush a second time once in the last month.  We're on city water,
but the pressure ain't exactly high.

Maybe you need less fiber in your diet?  ;-)


Arrogance at work--we know better than you.

For water usage, maybe they do.  Too many people think "what water shortage?  My
taps work".  Yeah, at the expense of getting the water other places it is needed.



I'm a fan of the local water charges - the more city water you use, the higher the
charge per gallon.  I like looooong showers.  But I've shortened them since moving
here.  If I kept taking really long ones, I'd expect to pay more, since I am
increasing the stress on the total system more (note, however, that the complex I am
renting in requires in-ground sprinklers fed by wells, so no gardening water is city
water, and I have installed a hose tap on the pump for various rinsing duties
outside).




That's a fine summation of the Dubya administration in general and the
Ridge/Ashcroft machine in particular.  What's your point?

That someone wanting to do something "for my own good" should probably check
with me first, rather than following the dictates of their conscience that they
just know better than me what's best for me.

If you were a Republican, I'd say Pot...Kettle...Black.  The Republicans like
controlling people as much as the Democrats.  I'll take the Democrat's version over
the Republican.  I have an extreme problem with a group that is trying to tell me
what I can/can't do in the privacy of my own home if I am not hurting anyone in the
process.

--
Tom Stangl
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(...) That's what makes me mad, that other people are making me waste water because they know better than me what my situation is! (...) According to the plumber I consulted, the money would be better spent on a pressure system. The irony is that I (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) See my other reply to you. (...) Thanks for clearing that up. I really appreciate it. (...) I'm condemning them for their arrogance, not their education! It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no more than (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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