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Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:34:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote:
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First, an apology: real life interferes with a lengthier reply on your
message on things that we will never agree on; sorry for the lengthy snips.
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It is perfectly okay. It was indeed, getting to be a lot.
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
(lengthy snip)
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That is a problem with TV news in general - and why I don’t bother with it
for the most part. It’s those outside of traditional liberalism and
conservatism that have cause for complaint.
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Hear, hear!
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There! We don’t have to agree to disagree! We can agree to agree.
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Geez, I am chagrined. I looked closely at he study that I was ready to
bludgeon you with and it was from 1980--hardly applicable to our debate
(ouch!)!
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Well, who knows, you could still be right, so I shall not gloat.
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Many thanks!
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Oh, hey, does this mean I’ve lost my standing in the international Hubris
Society? ;-)
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There’s the rub. Most of us are probably not conveniently labelled, and the
labels themselves usually refer only to the most extreme examples. I favor
smaller government, responsible gun ownership (if you don’t use them
responsibly or if you use them criminally don’t expect to have them,
otherwise you’re free to own guns), corporate accountability (and culpability
at the executive level), strong punishment for criminals, moderate
restriction on abortion (no late term abortions and society should try to
reduce the number of abortions--if you’re going to have sex be responsible
about it), using government land for personal recreation, blah blah blah.
I’m probably a Teddy Roosevelt-style Republican, more than about anything
else.
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Teddy was rather progressive socially....where’s a Bullmoose when ya need him?
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By human nature, most of us probably view ourselves as moderate, because
we’re all reasonable, right? Right?
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I sense a trap. :-)
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Again, what really depends is on how they present the news itself (as
opposed to the op/ed page).
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Agreed. There are plenty of fair individuals out there, who would report
objectively without preference for their perspective. And that’s my whole
point, that it’s not an organized, malicious thing like some conservatives
whine.
BTW, Bias is worth a read, and his point is that there’s no dialog or
self-examination about it by the media. You can get it for $2.50 used on
Amazon, and then you don’t even have to support the author!
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I like to sit at Border’s on Friday nights when they have live music and abuse
the magazines and books by reading them but not buying.
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But I already said that I acknowledge individual cases of bias manifest
themselves in both directions, people being what they are. As to the cases
you mention, I’d have to see the specifics to be able to comment, but they
hardly indicate some broad pattern regardless (you basically conceded that I
can find them going back the other direction, so I’m going to be lazy and
not bother!).
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No problem. How about this: I’ll still believe the media has a liberal bias,
you won’t, and I won’t use the term “liberal media” in here, but am free to
point out a specific example of media bias, such as opinion reported as news?
(And if you’re so inclined, you’ll give up “vast right-wing conspiracy” as a
token of good will. ;-)
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You can use “liberal media”, just when you use the liberal media to support a
conservative point, I’ll be questioning the use of the term. :-)
As to a vast right wing conspiracy, I don’t know if I would use the term on
something they are pretty much up-front about.
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I must run, but I’ll possibly address more tomorrow. It’s getting to family
time. And you won’t convince me that debating here is as good a use of my
time as playing with my 1-year-old!
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Go play. My 12 year old is at science camp this week, so I’m just moping about.
-->Bruce<--
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