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Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
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Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:41:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

None of which was listed as the reason for the pre-emptive war.  But I guess
Hussein's actions (and the actions of his sons) are as good a reason as any
to kill 3,000+ innocent Iraqi civilians, not to mention the dead or wounded
US citizens...

IMO, the only justification needed was this: Hussein was in continuing
violation of the cease-fire that ended the first Gulf War, both through
continuing activities in no-fly zones and hampering efforts of enforcement of
the UN resolutions governing Iraq.

  IIRC, the no-fly zones were established by the US and UK, so they are
irrelevant to UN resolutions.  For that matter, Dubya himself hampered the
efforts of the UN to enforce its own resolutions when he made logically
impossible demands upon Hussein.

I wish W had just said that, because I don't like the idea of US troops
liberating every population of the world that's oppressed and making the US
beholden to their well-being.

  You're absolutely right, and for what it's worth, I'm certainly glad that
Hussein is essentially out of the picture.  But Dubya knew that "the good of the
Iraqi people" wouldn't be a successful rallying cry to preemptive war, so he
trumped up the Iraqi/nukes/Al-qaeda info to play upon US fears and xenophobia.
In short, no matter what good has come of the war, Dubya should be held
accountable (Dubya himself--not Rice, or Tenet, nor Powell, nor Rumsfeld, nor
Fleischer, etc.) for deliberately misleading the people he was appointed to
serve.

     Dave!



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  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) You may be correct about the no-fly zones being established by coalition forces, but they were a condition of the cease-fire, and violation of a cease-fire is more than sufficient reason to resume hostilities. The UN wouldn't enforce anything (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) IMO, the only justification needed was this: Hussein was in continuing violation of the cease-fire that ended the first Gulf War, both through continuing activities in no-fly zones and hampering efforts of enforcement of the UN resolutions (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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