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Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
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Sun, 17 Aug 2003 02:46:24 GMT
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> And extremely costly. Consider that by the time the solar panels would require
> replacement, they still wouldn't have paid off their initial cost. Why else do
> you think non-oil producing countries have not implemented the system? It's not
> as if they'd gain anything from buying oil, other than paying less for the same
> outcome.
Well I have done the math it would save my household about $10,000 over the
course of the solar panels lifetime versus the current electric bill.
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> But I can tell you with a very reasonable degree of certainty that even if oil
> were not used at all for electrical generation, you still would not want to rely
> in solar panels + power cells for electricity: bear in mind that it would
> suffice for one abnormal consumption during one night for blackouts to ocurr,
> which would represent ZERO benefit regarding the subjects of the debate.
Well my house has a gas generator for back-up power already. It is slightly more
expensive to use than the power company but it would suffice in an unlikely
abnormal consumption period untill the next morning. (Course I don't really
think we would need all that much power at night. Our power goes out for several
hours at night once every 2 or 3 months anyway.)
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> Do you have doubts in your mind that they were NOT going to risk a meltdown that
> would surely toss their sorry @$$e$ in jail? It would be EXTREMELY stupid to
> play "meltdown" in real life - it's obvious it was not an experiment designed
> for observation of the phenomena, rather one designed for advertisement
> purposes.
> Either that, or those folks should be tried for risking a nuclear accident!
Well that is exactly what they did. It was government aproved, they evacutated
the only small town that would have been in the blast radius if the plant was a
conventional reactor. They wanted to prove the theory that a breeder reactor can
not meltdown and succeded.
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> How can I put it politely?
> Think airplane crashing plant. Think earthquake. Think flood. I am not concerned
> with what ocurrs as consequence of ordinary exploration of such reactor, rather
> of what is consequence of extraordinary events. That DO happen.
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> > Now the current oil buring generators create a lot of air borne
> > pollution that actually is a health risk.
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> Yes, they are doing such. But if a coal plant (or oil, for that matter) suffers
> a catastrophic accident, you're not increasing the risk of having your children
> born with deformities, are you?
No they would simply be dead. If an oil power plant were hit by an airplane or
earthquake or something as you suggest for a reason against breeder reactors, it
would cause a comparable explosion. Heck a simple propane storage facility about
16 miles from my house would level everything in 20 miles if it were somehow
accidentally detonated. The odds of that happing are about the same as a breeder
reactor suffering an extraordinary accident, which is to say the odds are better
that I will be struck by lightning and survive.
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> Not only that: even if such person made it into the ballot, could he/she
> advertise itself? And even if elected, could that person maintain the
> convictions during the whole term in office and actually pass any legislation?
Highly doubtful which is why I respectful don't trust anyone in the government.
-Mike Petrucelli
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