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Re: I resign from the LPRV committee
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lugnet.admin.general
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Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:19:24 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Tony Alexander wrote:
> Quick note: I'm at work on lunch break, and can't give this the thought I want
> to word it as well as it should be...
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> In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > I'm going to ask you how *you* would handle a
> > particular post, as an exercise.
> >
> > http://news.lugnet.com/market/auction/?n=10625
> >
> > Here's a post that flogs. There is nothing in that post about creations, just a
> > link to an auction. The author tries to justify it by citing someone else's post
> > (which also was a link to an auction, and which got a warning, which wasn't
> > received well at all), sort of a "He did it so I can too".
> >
> > If you read the ToU, you can tell that Todd felt very very strongly about
> > "auction spam", that posts that are purely flogging of an auction in a non
> > market (and non local) group are not a good thing at all. I'd argue that this
> > particular post is a pretty clear cut violation of the ToU as written, wouldn't
> > you agree? (see discussion group point 11)
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> Nobody's perfect, and everybody makes mistakes. I'm not sure if it
> constitues a TOU violation, as I'm not as well-versed in the specifics of the
> TOU as you are.
> Knowing nothing more about this poster's history, I'd say that a reminder
> along these lines would be in order:
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> "Although you've pointed to another auction post example in .technic, you should
> know that such posts normally don't belong there. Thanks for clarifying that
> this belongs in .market.auction; next time, please be sure to post it only there
> so it stays relevant to the community. Thanks!"
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> I'd post this online in response to his post.
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> > My contention is that it is easy to say (heck, I've said it) use a light touch,
> > but hard to apply.
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> It's easier when one isn't always being the "rules cop" (not that you
> specifically are, but the admin team lately **seems** to be), because one has a
> chance to step back and take a breath befoer replying. In the heat of the
> moment mistakes can be made.
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> I may have a chance later tonight to get on and share more thoughts. Right
> now, I'd say that a light touch could be applied.
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> Peace and Long Life,
> Tony Alexander
Sorry to reply to my own post, but a few caveats (still at work, but thought of
more and had a chance):
* I'm a member/user, not an admin; as such, my immediate reply to seeing this
post would have been: "Hmmm...not technic...on to the next one." I'd ignore it,
as it meant nothing to me.
* I'm not sure most user/members are much worried about "proper" posting
location - relevance is different for each of us based on what we're doing.
(Example - Hogwarts express at the offloading station - post to .trains or
.castle? I could see arguments for both, and another user may feel justified in
so doing) There are few (if any?) written guidelines that say a post must be in
it's proper home. Most of what I've learned has been with some nudging from
others.
* Being too worried about such a post can lead to the impression that one is
being heavy-handed in admin duties. Some 'transgressions' require nothing more
than a quick reminder; some can be ignored.
* If this post is from a long line of repeats AND has been generally irritating
people (no reply posts to this one after several days, I notice), maybe then
take stronger action than a reminder. But only IF.
* Using the light touch may be hard to apply, but it's worth it for the overall
morale of the community. The easy road is rarely the one worth travelling.
Patience is one of the toughest things I've had to continue to use, but it has
always been a valuable asset.
P+LL,
T~
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| Quick note: I'm at work on lunch break, and can't give this the thought I want to word it as well as it should be... (...) Nobody's perfect, and everybody makes mistakes. I'm not sure if it constitues a TOU violation, as I'm not as well-versed in (...) (20 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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