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Re: I resign from the LPRV committee
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lugnet.admin.general
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Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:37 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> Perhaps part of the issue with letting people know what is going on is that
> every single thing any admin says seems to get picked apart 9 ways from Sunday
> by people who are apparently looking for flaws (or looking for buttons to push)
> so they can pounce on them?
Possibly due to the perceived lack of faith from 'the community' towards the
admin team in a few areas, such as, and this is one example--dealing with
apparent transgressions in an unbiased fashion, even if the apparent
transgressor(s) are part of the admin team.
If there are perceived transgressions (justified or not) and some of the
community has lost faith in the admin team to deal with the situations justly,
then yes, the community will look at anytihng the admin team puts out there with
a microscope.
The button pushing just comes with the territory of being in a responsible
position. Eh, I was always told to 'deal'.
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> That tends to make us want to check and recheck everything and then, even after
> we did, if something is a smidge wrong and it gets pounced on, we have to
> re-redo things.
On the other hand, if the admin team came right out form the beginning and said,
"we think that 'X' is a good idea and we're thinking about changing relevant
LUGNET areas to incorporate 'X'" it doesn't matter if there are inaccuracies or
incompledteness--the process is out there for all to see, and the inaccuracies
will be worked out as the discussion flows. As the discussion flows, so then
the process.
Again, not advocating that all members need to 'sign off' before things get
finalized and put into place, but what we have now is the complete opposite
where we, the community, appear to be treated like we're in grade school and
'the grups' (grownups, admin team, whatever--10 points for somone to identify
where that word came from) 'will take care of everything--we don't want or need
your input...'.
All this being said, what I have written thus far is what I, and others, would
like to see happen--the transparency bit, the ability to, shall we say, see
what's going on in a step by step process, influence the direction of that
process at the community level instead of at the admin level, etc--but I will
still be here, whatever the admin team does (or does not do). I know most of
the staff--at least their on-line personas--and I do believe that they are
working towards what they consider to be the best interests of LUGNET. Again,
perception is everything--I might personally think that 'this way' is better
than 'that way' of doing somehting, but it finally does rest in the purview of
the admins--it's 'their show'. I'm just 'throwing my opinion out there', as it
were.
Anyway, train show this weekend and I really haven't started getting anything
ready for it.
Dave K
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| (...) Some very good comments in this thread (Dave and Larry especially have brought up some salient points), I'd like to paraphrase what I understand as the key learnings, with my comments in italics. LUGNET staff (admins) need to be aware of how (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
| | | Grups
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| (...) Grups is from the original Star Trek series -- the show where the kids die after reaching puberty. Andy Evans (Who's staying out of the debate, but is always ready to rise to the challenge of Star Trek trivia!) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I'll say this, I'm still hopeful that the LPRV will pick up where it left off and get back to work. Maybe now it can. I owe the LPRV a significant sized post with answers to the questions that were asked about various technical and intention (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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