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(...) If I'm reading your statistics right, then I think the actual figure is 0.004 percent. I selected only homicide-related firearm deaths, yielding a total of 10,801, which represents 0.0039 percent. If my calculation is wrong, someone please (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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After a long absense, she finally got around to posting a few more articles. (and I couldn't be happier) (URL) for the faint of heart--language is on par with AA movies. If you're really in a particular jaunty mood, see what she said in her latest (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've never liked seat belt laws. It is fundamentally, a persona choice whether to buckle up or not. I say "Darwin, go to it!"--I'll wear my seatbelt because I want to, not because some law makes me. ANd od someone doesn't buckle up, that's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 25,000 violent deaths per year due to firearms is not a 'rampant problem'? 68 deaths a day 3 per hour. In the time it took us to write back and forth, say 3 hours, 9 people have died. 9 people whos violent "non accidental" deaths could have (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Now here is a really good article: (URL) of posting it refers to the September 10th article titled "Click it or Ticket" will likely soon be moved to here: (URL) Petrucelli (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well lets see... According to that site only 0.00004 percent of people decide to abuse freedom by killing others with guns. And only 0.00006 percent of people decide to kill themselves with guns. So in the "supposedly freeest society" only (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Still not seeing it. Let's take the general (moral position) case here for a sec. Consider if the government said in a policy statement "we prefer if people pay their debts rather than dodge their creitors". That's a moral statement. Does the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) However, having the gov't making a 'judgement' about where your tax dollars go based, as far as I can see, only on a 'Christian moral value', therefore excluding other groups who don't (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was with you (abstinence education as the sole path is a terrifically stupid approach) till this last bit, how's this a first amendment violation again? Free speech isn't free, remember, you the speaker have to pay for it. There is no (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is that? What in your society, supposedly the freeest society on the planet, causes you to kill each other more often, per capita, than any other country in the world during peace time? I'll go so far as to grant you the premise that if (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder...
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(URL) the terms of the multi-million-dollar fund which have been made available under President Bush for abstinence education, schools and groups can only claim federal money for sex education programmes if the classes have as their "exclusive (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Go there now, tell your friends, spam your enemies. Yeah, yeah -- we'll just end up with another problem with our V.P. but I still think it sends a message. Besides, it's funny. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So what? All you've done is show that people are smart enough to use the best tool for a certain task -- if you intend to kill someone a gun is a good choice for that job. In a sense, if you could eliminate a person's motivation to kill you (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) What a fascinating site. Here's a few figures-- 1. What was tthe intent or manner of the injury? -violence-related 2. What was the cause or mechanism of the injury? -all (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I always see the term "gun related deaths" used when I see these kinds of statistics. I have no idea whether there's a criminal factor in the assessment of the deaths at all -- frankly, why should there be? I think its possible that you are (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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First I should say I am anti-gun ownership, possibly partly due to the fact that I am a UK subject (not citizen as I don't live in a republic) A point that appears in this thread is the term gun crime. In the UK pretty much all gun deaths/injuries (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think if it actually came to nukes everyone lost already. Of course I happen to think oblivion is better than slavery, but I would still consider that losing. (I may be a little crazy, but I am not stupid.) -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, call my old man paranoid, but he is convinced the "smaller" nukes just okayed by the Senate are for use "in country." I generally support the right of citizens to be armed at the same level as the professional military, but I think I'll (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | The Unstraight story
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Bush: No evidence Saddam was involved in 9/11 attacks (URL) "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties," the president said. But he also said, "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11" attacks. The (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My vote has no power at all. The power of the people is derived from their status of being collectively stronger than the military forces of the government. I seriously doubt that will ever need to be used, but so long as the government has (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Explain the Civil War (from {either} vantage point). (...) That is an extremely false analogy - is Frank saying that we need to have flintlock rifles and muskets? No, so where does this stuff about candles and dirt come in? Technological (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In my view you always want both a router and a software firewall behind it. I just bought a Linksys BEFSR41 at Best Buy for $40 after the mail-in rebate. With a hub the thing expands to something like 50 DHCP/static IP boxes -- more than (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You do realize, of course, the irony of not cross-posting that? ;p James (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) of course, answers just about nothing beyond what it says right there in the URL, and the date of November 23rd. Be sure to check your underpants before then. ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think Breathed is going to feature Opus. I dunno if it's going to be a remade 'Bloom County' or 'Outland' or something completely new, but supposedly Opus will be in it. Dave K (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I mentioned that in other countries, an armed citizenry is needed in order for them to make it to the end of a day. Are you saying that America is on par with Afghanistan? That you face the same problems? (...) Cites please. Show me at (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, but so can cleaning up after worms and virii! These days, running directly connected to the internet without some sort of firewall between you and the rest of the world is not good, in my view. I was running that way for a while and was (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yay! Is our favorite penguin going to be part of this, or is this a totally new creation? Bruce (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A cynic might even claim that the only reason the civil rights movement progressed was that a white minister was killed... See: (URL) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) However, fighter jets and ICBMs don't "hold" territory. Just look at what's going on in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine for examples of what an "armed" citizenry might be able to do to resist oppressors. (...) Right now the situation is not (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why do people post 1600x1200 pictures on BrickShelf? I love looking at these pictures where I have no idea what on earth the thing is because you have to scroll all over creation. People are just lazy sometimes. Personally, I crop pictures (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I just tried to get DSL. It's not cheap for me. I would have to upgrade my OS (I'm still running Windows 95 at home - I just tried to get DSL, they wouldn't sell it to me because I'm not using a supported OS), which would probably (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Californication....
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Supposedly from 'The Daily Show' last night... (since I only have basic cable and don't get to watch it) " "Let's see. Darrell Issa found an obscure clause in the CA Constitution from over 130 years ago, shelled out over $2 million of his own money (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) there are glimmers of hope. There are hints of salvation. Because Berkeley Breathed, genius creator of the much-loved and expertly drawn and slyly wry "Bloom County" strip from the '80s, is returning to the Sunday comics page. " " "Bloom (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, that's big news: The Admiral is a Compartmentalized Dork! CDs Unite! JOHN (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Constant avoidance of the truth does not make the truth go away. A citizen cannot purchase an F22. A citizen cannot have at his or her disposal an ICBM. A citizen can only have, at best, a gun. This makes the differntial rather large. It's the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HLCGG1.y1w@lugnet.com... (...) in the (...) naming (...) something (...) 575 (...) images and (...) even (...) software (...) This is stuff you'd have to ask Mark, but I know the only (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(3 URLs) I'm with Mike P. What exactly is the excuse for not web-optimizing these very fuzzy images in the first place? It takes like 1 minute to do (even though I screwed up my naming convention on the last image). The new versions of these images (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) download. <snip> Ducking in here for a moment. If this is a text issue then why aren't you just using a newsreader? [ j o n ] (URL) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok maybe people interprited that a little more harshly than it was intended. (Very funny post, Matt.) But, seriously anything over 200k in one post just seems a little excessive to me. (...) Well first off text does not take any significant (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Drat - You beat me to this! I rarely visit offtopic.debate but I saw this article and had to post about it. I am a free fall - but I am only occasionally brash and gregarious. Occasionally I sleep on my side with outstretched arms - so I am (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe in Canada but not here in the U.S. (...) The only thing that garuntees the right to vote is the armed citizenry. (...) And won't be so long as we retain the ability to combat such opressors. (...) So long as I am armed my vote can never (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | "MP3s Are Not the Devil" By Orson Scott Card
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MP3s Are Not the Devil By Orson Scott Card (URL) I think there are some people that might have missed this elsewhere but that also read this author's stuff. I have yet to read anything by him but this article, but I understand he's supposed to be (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What a great typo! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't care about law suits, I care about information. Whatever I do, I believe in the right to enough information to make an educated decision. I may smoke tobacco infused with huge amounts of nicotine, I may ingest french fries dripping (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apathy is rampant everywhere--what can one person do against the establishment? is the common consensus. As for the smoking thing--I'm pretty much on the fence--sueing tobacco companies now 'cause we didn't know the harm of smoking... The term (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I agree. Here's the problem (and I thought I had touched on this before...ah, yes (URL)): public relations. We aren't having wars -- we are buying into a product. We aren't believing the lies -- the subject of public discourse is the lie (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | And now for something completely different...
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How do you sleep? (URL) are all aware of our body language when we are awake but this is the first time we have been able to see what our subconscious says about us," he said. Crouched in the fetal position is the most popular sleep pattern and (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) And I don't understand why you have a difficult time grasping the truth. 1776 history shows the differential in technology between the ruling powers and the common man to be rather (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Google News is a good way to get references to Lego in the media
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I am a big fan of Google News ((URL) You can use it to set up "news alerts" that send out an e-mail when a certain keyword is found in news stories (say, LEGO). One of the things I love about it is its breadth of coverage. You get news from lots of (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I could not resist to comment: 1-americans must *really* feel lonely, at 1.4 per home! (*) 2-Those 200million guns (or whatever the figure) can never work as one. For starters, no wanna-be-oppressor would be dumb enough not to have a power (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Safe at last
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(...) I care, but I can't really do anything to help. Sorry :-( (...) They're using high-tech microwave ovens: the frogs will just pop when noone expects. Cheer up, Larry: you can still vote for the US presidency. Not everyone can, as Nikita K. once (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Your right but the guns in the other 200ish million homes does. (...) Even a Muskett in everyone's hands would still work. The modern Military can not defend itself from millions of people attacking them in their own bases. (I honestly don't (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Psst! Hey Mike, just for an FYI--we're in the 21st century. What worked in 1776 may not work so much right now. But that's just my personal opinion. And I'll point out once again that the 'establishment' has nukes and what else comes with the (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was cutting the other side some slack with my 'diplomatic wording'. It's called being nice to the other side. It is my personal contention that a gun's main purpose is to kill/main someone else in front of the gun, and I have as yet to be (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Specifically what I said was: "Anyone that tries to take away my constitutionally protected fundamental rights better find a cure for brain lead first." (...) One that recognizes Freedom was purchased in blood. I highly doubt that I will ever (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm gonna go with "not". What bugs me is that most everyone seems not to care. So, all you frogs out there, what's the temperature now? How many degrees left till we get to boiling? (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, but now we're back to "guns don't kill people; people kill people." If you wish to condemn guns based on their "intent," then you can't simply abandon that argument in favor of the user's "'usual' purpose." You seem to be claiming (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) But are you a master debater? Dave K -I says pardon??? (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doh! Well, I guess that's right, but see below: (...) So you're saying that my specious argument (which took up lot of space) and Dave's specious argument (which also took up a lot of space) were of the same spacious specious species? After (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: CNN babe speaks out!
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(...) The bit I like: " Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda." " So we're still, "If you're not for us (Dubya et al), (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) Can you then explain to me how Watergate happened, which, as far as I can see, was relatively benign in the 'grand scheme of things', got a president kicked out of office, and yet the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hence I didn't say that the inherent purpose of a gun is to shoot someone. However, the 'usual' purpose of a gun *user* is to shoot at someone, either in an act of "defense" or in an act of crime. Maybe to scare, maybe to intimidate, and maybe (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | CNN babe speaks out!
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Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship (URL) CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (snipping rest of silly examples) The primary purpose of a gun is to shoot something - the primary purpose of a handgun is to shoot someone. The reason that they were developed in the first place were to shoot someone. The primary purpose of a (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The two ideas are not really related. An informed citizenry does not automatically follow just because of the mere existence of civil rights. The existence of civil rights should help one be an informed citizen, but it is in no way a political (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But a gun's purpose isn't interently to shoot a person; that's an inferential purpose. By extension, the purpose of a pair of scissors is to cut things, therefore I can cut someone's throat with them, so scissors should be banned. A baseball (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Safe at last
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(URL) Thank goodness!> Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And scissors, pencils, and LEGO all have a primary function which has nothing to do with the ending or maiming of a life. What is a gun's *primary* function? As soon as you start realizing you can't sit there and say, "Well, such-n-such can (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Insisting" is not a word that I think the NRA would use or want you to use. "Insisting" would means that they back mandatory gun safety courses as a precursor to gun ownership, something I don't believe they back (they want no impediments to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Related-- (URL) Bush escaped an Iraq row ... Why hasn't George Bush encountered the same storm of criticism in the US over his intelligence claims on Iraq as Tony Blair has received in the UK? " " In the end, George Bush did not need the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think that Al was too lenient when he says "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell Them--A fair and balanced look at the right" Perspective is everything. From the DU website: ((URL) remember when we were going to get Saddam Hussein, find his weapons (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mike, for maximum effect: "I could be difficult and argue what the definition of is is". All I do is give, JOHN (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I could be difficult and argue the definition of is*, but I think your logically right. ;-) There are quite a few things that might be responsible for the decrease in crime, like the increased rate of incarceration of criminals for example. I (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree with that. Now I am not an NRA member but one of their biggest "causes" (for lack of a better word) is insisting on responsible owenership. They also support mandatory minimum prison sentances for persons who commit crimes with guns. (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Probably more time than you imagine. Pulling off a 'spontaneous' event like that can take days of planning. (...) Not quite true. Matt made a comment that a ten year anniversary is tin, and thus the reason for the tin foil sculpture. Someone (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm... maybe you are right. I didn't see it that way. Anyway, the harsh-ness of my post wasn't toward Eric, but towards Conan, so I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings here. Whatever is the reason why he didn't appreciate the gifts, I think (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd have to agree. The whole thing played out rather stiff, with the Today show folks trying to create a wacky, outrageous situation (aping Conan's style?) and failing pretty miserably. Then again, live TV comedy is pretty tough. Anyhow, the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As half-a-million legally owned guns are stolen in the USA each year, I'd suggest gun crime is somewhat dependent on lack of gun control legislation. ;) Ownership is one thing; ownership without responsibility is a different kettle of fish. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Living in fear helps us all become good consumers. Have you never heard of Edward Bernase or his uncle? Scott A “I'm proud to be maladjusted and to which I call upon you to continue to be maladjusted." MLK (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not quite right. Logically, data cannot be used selectively to demonstrate the efficacy of gun control laws. However, it does not logically follow, therefore, that no correlation exists between gun control and gun crime. I happen to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would add to that the media slogan "if it bleeds, it leads" in terms of priority of news coverage. At least one study has demonstrated that murder rates have gone down by something like 18% over some recent period of time, but news coverage (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did you read what you wrote? (...) So making Hadguns illegal has only caused criminals to use other guns. (What a surprise.) Have you ever heard of the Black Market. Criminals will always have guns. (...) can draw is that both sides are using (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Online, I have no idea. Now in the papers, on the radio, on TV there have been numerous citations of studies which indicate that the crime rate as gone down but the brutality of crimes that do happen has increased, giving the overall (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Having watched the entire spot, I would agree with Rick's assessment. If anything, Conan was polite and took it all in comedic stride. Regards, Allan B. (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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If you think that's a proof of madness, then I can top your story: (URL) proves IMO that it is not the plaintiff who is an idiot - it's whomever pays him attention and hasn't got the guts to say no. Pedro (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, keep your regional fighting in the .loc groups where it belongs - and NOT in the CA group! We don't care about all y'all's lack of technology. Besides, Oakland BBQ rocks any other off the plate! Come out here and try some Everett & Jones (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.market.shopping)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) And see, that's the line for me. If a corp. is negligent and that negligence harm, then the corp. should be on the hook. If you are in a drunken stupor, and you, in that intoxicated state, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you're saying that anyone who seeks compensation for a dumb action that he himself commits must be a liberal? I suspect that you're kidding, because otherwise you're asserting that no Conservative has ever sought, will ever seek, or would (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, either he's a liberal who genuinely feels he's been victimized, or a new liberal who has been convinced (by a shyster who gets 40% off of the top) that he is owed something somehow. (...) Now, now, not so, Dave! Please don't sit there (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not to be stereotypical, but if I hear 'intoxicated man', 'atttempting to use a slip 'n slide' and 'sue for all you can get', my immediate thought is 'college age punk kid who doesn't give a whit about politics or issues' To expound--first, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd be interested to learn the political leanings of the aforementioned paralyzed drunkard. After all, we know that Conservatives absolutely adore and support actions free of consequence. Dave! (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) With the $$$ from the suit you could open a store called Ick "R" Us:-) (...) No, you don't. (;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm ready for it :) If I get tarred and feathered, then I could try to fly, and get too close to the sun--the tar'll melt and I'd fall back to earth, spraining an ankle or something--then I could sue the tar manufacturers or the chicken farmer (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To a liberal. Careful Dave; you might get tarred and feathers by your own with that kind of talk;-) [JOHN] (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) the part that... well... " Monday's lawsuit mentions one legal action brought by a Wisconsin adult who became paralyzed after diving onto the slide while intoxicated. The plaintiff in that case was awarded $12.3 million in damages, according (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's assume that's true. Look back to 10-15 years ago; there were large fluctuations in gun crime in the USA caused by the "shall-issue" laws. So your comparison with Bonnie Scotland is bogus. (...) Are you blind? Read what I said again: (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Citation, please. Dave! (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) September 11, 2001 Tribute> (URL) This was done last year and reposted to commemorate the 2nd anniversary. (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Also from that same post. "I think overall gun crime is rising (perhaps we should ban all guns?), but I doubt you’ll find data that suggest increased gun ownership in the UK would improve things?" Well guess what, the gun crime rate in the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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