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Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:24:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
  
   And then there’s Mike who speaks of people better be ready for ‘lead in the brain’.

Specifically what I said was: “Anyone that tries to take away my constitutionally protected fundamental rights better find a cure for brain lead first.”

   What kind of society talks like that?

One that recognizes Freedom was purchased in blood. I highly doubt that I will ever need defend my rights in such a distastful manner, but with idiots pushing for things like the Patriot Act, I recognize that anything can happen. What do you think would happen if Dubbya decided to cancel elections for reasons of national security? Frankly, I don’t like where ‘we’ are headed,(I hope I am just being paranoid) but if you want to go into it unarmed that is your choice to make. No one will make my choice for me. If you think I am a gun-totin-yahoo because I belive in the Revolutionary War motto of “Give me liberty or give me death”, then so be it.

-Mike (the “crazy” zealot) Petrucelli

Psst! Hey Mike, just for an FYI--we’re in the 21st century. What worked in 1776 may not work so much right now.

But that’s just my personal opinion.

And I’ll point out once again that the ‘establishment’ has nukes and what else comes with the armed forces. In 1776 (again), the ‘establishment’ was not better armed than the citizen.

Put the gun down, it isn’t going to do you a wee bit of good, except get yourself and maybe those you love killed. Martyrs aren’t made anymore in that fashion or Koresh would be one.

In the end, live (and die) as you see fit, but let the truth be known--your gun in your house isn’t going to prevent politicians form doing what they want.

Your right but the guns in the other 200ish million homes does.

   That may have been the case in 1776ish, but not in 2003.

Even a Muskett in everyone’s hands would still work. The modern Military can not defend itself from millions of people attacking them in their own bases. (I honestly don’t understand why you have difficulty with this concept.) So the couple million Americans who belong to ‘formally declared’ militia groups (with no government ties except the knowledge they exist) which have nearly equivelent weapons (machine guns, rocket launchers, etc.) would fair very well. Now don’t get me wrong this is a last resort tactic to be sure, but it is the only thing that backs up mere words. You may believe society is above the concept of “survival of the fittest” but if you really take a good look, its not.

-Mike Petrucelli

P.S. I read in the newspaper a few weeks ago that about 80 percent of domestic gun violence could be directly traced to drug traficking. If that statistic is acurrate... well that is a whole differnt topic.



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  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) I could not resist to comment: 1-americans must *really* feel lonely, at 1.4 per home! (*) 2-Those 200million guns (or whatever the figure) can never work as one. For starters, no wanna-be-oppressor would be dumb enough not to have a power (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) And I don't understand why you have a difficult time grasping the truth. 1776 history shows the differential in technology between the ruling powers and the common man to be rather (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Psst! Hey Mike, just for an FYI--we're in the 21st century. What worked in 1776 may not work so much right now. But that's just my personal opinion. And I'll point out once again that the 'establishment' has nukes and what else comes with the (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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