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Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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Date: 
Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:07:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
  
   Ownership is one thing; ownership without responsibility is a different kettle of fish.

I agree with that. Now I am not an NRA member but one of their biggest “causes” (for lack of a better word) is insisting on responsible owenership. They also support mandatory minimum prison sentances for persons who commit crimes with guns. Imagin that, punish the people who commit the crime, not the objects they use. (And don’t even get me started on how a pair of scissors is far more deadly in close quaters.)


“Insisting” is not a word that I think the NRA would use or want you to use. “Insisting” would means that they back mandatory gun safety courses as a precursor to gun ownership, something I don’t believe they back (they want no impediments to actually buying a gun).

And no, scissors aren’t more deadly (note the word “more” - a pencil can be deadly, though I imagine it would take a bit of work to make Lego deadly).

-->Bruce<--

And scissors, pencils, and LEGO all have a primary function which has nothing to do with the ending or maiming of a life.

What is a gun’s *primary* function?

As soon as you start realizing you can’t sit there and say, “Well, such-n-such can also be used to kill...”--it’s the arguement of a 5 year old--“Well, Timmy does this, so so can I!”

A guns only inherent purpose is to shoot bullets at something. That is all it can do. And if you take away the guns, you take away the shooting at something. Therefore, logically (as discussed earlier), there will be less gun related maimings and death.

It’s irrefutable--less guns, less gun related injuries and deaths.

Dave K -Statistics, as stated earlier in this thread, can be used to prove anything, but 2 + 2 will equal 5 (for moderately larger values of 2)



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(...) But a gun's purpose isn't interently to shoot a person; that's an inferential purpose. By extension, the purpose of a pair of scissors is to cut things, therefore I can cut someone's throat with them, so scissors should be banned. A baseball (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) "Insisting" is not a word that I think the NRA would use or want you to use. "Insisting" would means that they back mandatory gun safety courses as a precursor to gun ownership, something I don't believe they back (they want no impediments to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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