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Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:25:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
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http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/gunaus.htm
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Yeah and I can find a dozen sites with the oppisite data. The only conclusion
we can draw is that both sides are using only the data that supports their
respective arguments and ignoring anything to the contrary. Therefore
logically there is no correlation between gun laws and the crime rate.
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That’s not quite right. Logically, data cannot be used selectively to
demonstrate the efficacy of gun control laws. However, it does not logically
follow, therefore, that no correlation exists between gun control and gun crime.
I happen to believe that incidence of gun crime is largely independent of gun
control legislation, but I also accept that it is difficult to find objective
raw data supporting this belief.
Dave!
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) As half-a-million legally owned guns are stolen in the USA each year, I'd suggest gun crime is somewhat dependent on lack of gun control legislation. ;) Ownership is one thing; ownership without responsibility is a different kettle of fish. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I could be difficult and argue the definition of is*, but I think your logically right. ;-) There are quite a few things that might be responsible for the decrease in crime, like the increased rate of incarceration of criminals for example. I (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Did you read what you wrote? (...) So making Hadguns illegal has only caused criminals to use other guns. (What a surprise.) Have you ever heard of the Black Market. Criminals will always have guns. (...) can draw is that both sides are using (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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