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Subject: 
Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:07:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
> > 
> > > A guns only inherent purpose is to shoot bullets at something.
> > 
> >   But a gun's purpose isn't [interently] to shoot a [person;] that's an
> > inferential purpose.  By extension, the purpose of a pair of scissors is to
> > cut things, therefore I can cut someone's throat with them, so scissors
> > should be banned...
> (snipping rest of silly examples)
> 
> The primary purpose of a gun is to shoot something - the primary purpose of a
> handgun is to shoot some[one].  The reason that they were developed in the
> first place were to shoot some[one].

Doh!  Well, I guess that's right, but see below:

> The primary purpose of a scissors is not as a weapon - it makes a really bad
> one (I used the example of a pencil for a reason).  You can press a lot of
> things into service as a weapon, but that is not their primary purpose.  You
> are basically using the specious argument that David just pointed out was
> specious.

So you're saying that my specious argument (which took up lot of space) and
Dave's specious argument (which also took up a lot of space) were of the same
spacious specious species?

After the laughter's died down, I continue:

I guess what I'm getting at is that an object's primary purpose isn't paramount
when assessing the object's ban-ability, or at least that the primary purpose
can't be cited as a catchall for condemning (or not-condemning) a particular
object or class of objects.

Dave!

As a debater, I'm sometimes a master comedian...



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  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) But are you a master debater? Dave K -I says pardon??? (23 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) (snipping rest of silly examples) The primary purpose of a gun is to shoot something - the primary purpose of a handgun is to shoot someone. The reason that they were developed in the first place were to shoot someone. The primary purpose of a (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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