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Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:29:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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Every country and US State that has enacted gun control laws has not had
any noticable difference in gun crimes. The only thing they have succeded
in doing is disarming law abiding citizens.
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From this very thread:
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=21740
“Handgun crime is lower now (in Scotland) than 10 years ago (they were
“banned” in 97).”
Scott A
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Also from that same post.
“I think overall gun crime is rising (perhaps we should ban all guns?), but I
doubt you’ll find data that suggest increased gun ownership in the UK would
improve things?”
Well guess what, the gun crime rate in the U.S. is lower than it was 10 years
ago.
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Let’s assume that’s true. Look back to 10-15 years ago; there were large
fluctuations in gun crime in the USA caused by the “shall-issue” laws. So your
comparison with Bonnie Scotland is bogus.
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(The U.S. has always had a higher crime that the U.K. regardless of gun
law status) So once again, there is no noticable difference to gun crime as a
result of gun laws.
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Are you blind? Read what I said again:
“Handgun crime is lower now (in Scotland) than 10 years ago (they were
“banned” in 97).”
This refers to all gun crime:
“I think overall gun crime is rising (perhaps we should ban all guns?), but I
doubt you’ll find data that suggest increased gun ownership in the UK would
improve things?”
... and it’s not just Scotland:
http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/gunaus.htm
“Sharp Drop in Gun Crime Follows Tough Australian Firearm Laws”
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The only thing that is accomplished is disarming law
abiding citizens. Now why would the government want to disarm law abiding
citizens? Gun Control is about Control not Guns.
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I fear you are mixing “Gun Control” with the “Patriot Act”. ;)
Scott A
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) Did you read what you wrote? (...) So making Hadguns illegal has only caused criminals to use other guns. (What a surprise.) Have you ever heard of the Black Market. Criminals will always have guns. (...) can draw is that both sides are using (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Also from that same post. "I think overall gun crime is rising (perhaps we should ban all guns?), but I doubt you’ll find data that suggest increased gun ownership in the UK would improve things?" Well guess what, the gun crime rate in the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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