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I forgot my password and I can't get up. Member #40 Michael Gasperi (21 years ago, 2-Feb-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Hello! (...) Oh, people (kids, parents, non-AFOLs) are using "legos" all the time around here. It simply is shorter for "LEGO bricks" and everybody still knows exactly what this term ("legos") is referring to. As long as it's not used in official (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jan-05, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)
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Calling "lego" "legos" must be an american thing; I have never heard it used in the UK. Interestingly, searching loc.uk for "legos" got hits for "lego's". Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jan-05, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Exactly. It lacks class. KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203 (21 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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The issue of profanity on LUGNET has raised many hackles, and I can't say I blame most of the people who have expressed unhappiness. The rules are vague, the punishments appear somewhat arbitrary, the entire reason for having language guidelines (...) (21 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !!
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(...) In the past it sometimes but not always been indicative of a lot of spiders and webcrawlers scanning the site... hmm... you by any chance haven't had anything to do with making LUGNET more attractive to SPIDERS lately, have you Duane??? ((URL) (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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I've been getting this message quite often in the last week or so: Server temporarily unavailable due to heavy load. Please try again in a few minutes. Is the site getting more hits than normal, or is this indicative of another problem? -Duane (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's actually normat - most likely the machine at #11 doesn't reply to ICMP packets - usually firewalls/routers. Since it's the last jump before the server, I think a firewall there is very likely. (...) I wonder if it's a DNS issue - if you (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's true, Ondrew, the large amount of time that LUGNET has required from the admin team lately is not your problem. Unfortunately, when issues that have been dealt with (as this one has been) are reopened with repeats of insinuations and (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) As do many people, but what most, while doing so, don't realize is that they are on some level arguing for or against something. Whether the argument is with the 2 $^#$%$#^ bricks that won't separate or the @#$^& thing you dislike (for (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Who said anything about argument? I often use words in normal conversation that would probably be considered profane here. ROSCO (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, but I would expect you'd do something like this, so...carry on! :) (...) For THAT matter, I could also say Emimem or NWA made some excellent points using a LOT of profanity. What I'm trying to get across is, for the subject matter, that (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) And what I'm saying is, you don't NEED to. It's like saying, should I ever NEED to blow up a small sovereign nation, I want to always have access to a nuclear weapon (since everyone likes to call it the "F-Bomb" (?!#!@#)). It should never get (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Um, if you need to resort to profanity, then I submit that you have already lost the argument. Profanity itself is the use of socially agreed upon words which have no real meaning in any given situation, but rather express distaste in a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I didn't mean to imply that profanity is always wrong. I tend to agree with Larry's view on profanity use [1] and also agree (strongly) with Kelly's view of "free speech" on LUGNET [2]. My comment wasn't meant to address what was profanity and (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I know that the admins set the rules and I know LUGNET is "non-free" in terms of the types expression allowed but I think the above opinion is very arrogant (that's not to say that you, Tim, are arrogant since I know you are not). The above (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) One year :-) -Tim (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Then do it on a server that you own, or one that allows profanity in discussions. The only reason you would have to fear those 'seven people you haven't met' would be because those people are entrusted with the keeping of this sandbox, which (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) WILD STALLIONS RULE!!!! -Orion (who think that lately LUGNET has been severly lacking in the mirth department) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) maybe! I snipped the rest away. I think both sides have made good points and I don't want to respond point by point. Instead I want to touch on a theme. In an ideal world the only rule LUGNET would ever need would be "be excellent to each (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Calum I am sure you knew this would be coming as soon as you listed names of people that make a point without profanity..... but here it is anyway. (...) Yes, *SOME* would say that..... (...) BUT *I* would say.... I can see your point, and I (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You seem to be implying that answering Ondrew's email was NOT a Lugnet (admin) issue, or was less important than other issues Lar (and other admins) may have been addressing. If that is indeed what you mean, then I would strongly disagree. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) THANK YOU . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) tim isin't a member anymore and hasn't been involved for close to 2 years. (...) then ask them! niltc@niltc.org the only reason they haven't replyed to this allready is because they are tired of all of the ranting and other B.S. that goes on (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Calum, You make some excellent points. I can even see that wishy-washy-easily-swayed Dave K says that you are right. BUT, Calum, you made my point in your very last sentence. At no point have I ever(STRESS EVER) advocated that I want to swear (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Calum Tsang wrote: <snip> (...) Didn't someone state recently that you had dreamy eyes? Well, I can't attest to that but as far as I'm concerned, you are an excellent voice o' reason! Nicely done. Dave K -who has a Geroge (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Some would say that you don't need those seven to make any point that's worth making. I mean, when Madeline Albright or Paul Martin stood before the United Nations, I didn't see them using those magic seven, did they? I don't see lawyers using (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Hi, you may be right. Pair has a similar traceroute and the same timeout at hop #11. It's not temporary. It's since weeks. Ronald (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> (...) Those dastardly forgin languages!!! Dave K -picture it done with a Swedish accent and maybe you'llbegin to see why I'm smilin' right now... (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Scott Lyttle wrote: Hello Scott, With all due respect, I do understand your point, but every story has at least two sides to it. (...) I am NOT Chris, but I do have kids. (...) I let them swear in my house, anytime they feel (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) HI Scott. I have to say; i have met MORE people here recently than I have in a very long time. YES. I have Kids. www.themagnofamily.com When I get to that bridge, my intention is to teach my kids something about "right time, right place." (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Hi and thank you, makes sence for me :-) (...) What about hop #11 = timeout ? (...) Curious, it says nothing in the status line when I'm waiting :-( What you mean with "connecting" could be here "Suchen der Seite (URL)", translated "Searching (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) XFUTting to .admin.general, seems more appropriate. (...) From your traceroutes, I can't see anything really wrong - 150ms round trip should be quite reasonable. Not sure why it's taking you so long to connect though. Especially since once (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Larry, if you're so busy dealing with Lugnet issues (URL) I would suggest the quickest resolution would be to just apologise "to anyone that may be offended" in the original thread. ROSCO (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(snip) Chris, do you have kids? If so, do you let them swear and curse anywhere they choose? I think you realize that the censorship really has more to do with being decent than anything else. As Lugnet tries to be a place that is friendly to all, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) (some, but apparently not all) (...) I'm sorry that some members of NILTC took offense at my joke. In particular, Ondrew, I am sorry that you took offense. It is regrettable. I may not necessarily think it's reasonable to take offense so, but (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) (or put "this is a repost with some content changed" when reposting things... just like Calum did) (...) Please don't lay any smack down on JoJo for reposting, after cleaning up the quoted text that got him a timeout. Lay it on me, instead, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) "On behalf" is different than being a representative of the club. I know through personal communications that Tim Courtney was not offended by Lar's post. I'm still curious about how the club feels. (...) I hope you realize that the Admins (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I have refrained from entering this "discussion" but I feel I need to insert my .02 and then back out again. Here is the deal: Ken's announcement was the joke; Larry only had the hubris to point it out. Whoever wrote the announcement, while (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) For reference, some people may be interested in this post: (URL) That's either Ken disclosing he works in a "LEGO store", or it's a ToS violation, someone else (presumably his wife) is posting under his ID saying SHE works in a "LEGO store". (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) techicly i'm not an official represenitive anymore since i'm no longer an active member. however since i created the club along with tim courtney and brian willams i still retain the right to protect my investment. so yes in this instance i am (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Are you asking as an official representative of NILTC? I'm just asking to make sure it's understood that you're speaking for NILTC in this instance. (...) Please see about a third of the way down this post, which addresses that subject: (URL) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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-snip- Thank you for giving us the perspective of NILTC. Up until now, Ken has been speaking on behalf of a number of people (NILTC and the Library) - and I've been curious on their take on this. (...) Does this mean you are no longer a member? No (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Now I understand that ken is bullheaded and may have justly received this timeout however I do agree that an apology is in order. Larry’s so called bad joke was insulting to me, as well as other NILTC members. Now I know ken could care less about an (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I recieved it. I wish I had replied with a message that said "Thank you for bringing this to my attention." But I wouldn't have recommended Lar for a timeout (he was obviously trying to joke), and I'm not entirely sure my email would have (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Over the years Todd has made his stance on the hobby a VERY well known stance. Plus, we are ON Lugnet so we all know this. And when you talk about Lugnet you will prob also talk about Todd. When you run a public site such as this and basically (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) As with all timeouts, Ken's return after the timeout period has expired is subject to indicating understanding of why the timeout occured, and an agreement to abide by the ToS. The choice on whether to abide by the ToS is completely up to Ken, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Good point about the publicness of the Yahoo group. It equates more to a party at a private home. Still, I would not expect someone to not share information discovered at a private party. In fact, one of my examples was going to be if I post a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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The many personal insults and excessive crossposting by Ken Nagel in this thread have earned Ken a one-week timeout from posting on LUGNET, beginning immediately. It's unfortunate that Ken was let go from his employer. The circumstances of Ken's end (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Well I disagree that Yahoo groups are necessaily public. If you can only join with the consent of the group moderator, and the messages are only available to members, I would consider it very bad form to repeat publically anything that is (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Ken Nagel" <knandjn@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:IAt0LL.1AKF@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) able to (...) It's a gray area for sure and like just about anything which is gray, you can find a corner case which doesn't fit the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Where did the library call for his apology? Where did NILTC? And since you deem Larry's apologies as worthless anyway, why are you so adamantly pursuing it? (...) First you're pissed at Larry for what any outsider would interpret as a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You're twisting words here Ken. What Todd is saying is that you (not somebady else) posted this infomation in what could be construted as a public forum (the Yahoo group) without saying that you considered this infomation to be private. (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) SNIP (...) No, he flies it like a flag and has widly disseminaeted it himself. If I were to find out something as mundane as his political affiliation it would be wrong for me to post it without his permission. Somewhere someone has that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In lugnet.admin.general, Ken Nagel wrote: Snipped unnecessary post (...) If your looking for a fight head back to one of the debate forums. Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Mike Walsh wrote (...) So as I mentioned to Todd I can now post anything I want because if I'm able to find it out it can't be an invasion of privacy.-Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I didn't ask for his apology but he did but then he turned around and started his campaign of justification and obfuscation. He still owes the library and NILTC an apology not that his apologies seem to be worth anything. (...) If that's the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, David Koudys wrote: Snipped unnecessary post (...) If your looking for a fight head back to one of the debate forums. Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, David Koudys wrote: Snipped unnecessary post (...) If your looking for a fight head back to one of the debate forums. Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.admin.general, David Koudys wrote: Snipped unnecessary post (...) If your looking for a fight head back to one of the debate forums. Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, David Koudys wrote: Snipped unnecessary post (...) If your looking for a fight head back to one of the debate forums. Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Please-Ken (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I want to perform an experiment here to determine if this stance on revealing of personal information is reasonable. 1. Is it reasonable to say that Todd Lehman's being an AFOL is personal information? 2. Todd certainly has communicated that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ok - no worries. It did strike me as odd you would say it was not personal information. But I do agree it was not private information - but IMHO that does not make it "ok" for others to be posting it unless said person has said it was ok. You (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wow. Thanks for catching that mistake. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote "personal" above. I guess I was thinking "personal private" and accidentally wrote "personal." Sorry for the confusion on the wording and thanks again for the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Assuming you do not mind other peoples point of view since you are doing all this in the public forums I would like to step in and give my thoughts on this one point. Ken's working situation IS and WAS personal information. So what if Ken has (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ken, I'm sorry that you felt hurt by what Larry wrote. Larry has since apologized to you for the comments which you found offensive. If others in NILTC, or at the library, call upon Larry for an apology, I've no doubt he would apologize to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> wrote in message news:IArA5u.DqD@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] I too have been catching up, I was out of town for a week with minimal connectivity. Boy, what a mess to come back to. (...) I would be shocked if Ken (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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<Snip> See, you miss a few hours due to being snowed in and you fail to see that the resolution is being worked out with the admins... So I shut up now. Dave K -gives a concrete example of 'read all before you post'... (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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<snip> *cough* THat's suppose to be "knickers" in a knot... *cough*... Dunno if that was a Freudian slip or anything, though, sometimes a carrot is just a carrot... Dave K -who really does find humour in the most unlikely places... (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ken Nagel wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) If rtlToronto got their knockers in a knot everytime that someone did this to one of our 'official event announcement' invitations here at LUGNET, we wouldn't do anyhthing. I don't (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Others may have aggeed with you, but Dave and I do not. So again, where does that get us. Seriously, you really have to stop playing the 'my camp is bigger or better than your camp' card. As faras I can see, the admins don't agree with your (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ken Nagel wrote: <snip> (...) Selective interpretation--I posted that I wasn't in favour of his petition and left it there, as did others. The debate started when people rightlypointed out the fallacies (misrepresenting in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) On second thought, after reading this whole topic, maybe the AFOL community should boycott you. --Rich BZPower.com (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !!
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(...) Do we even know that the library took offense? I've read nothing here at LUGNET from the Library that found Larry's post offensive. Furthermore, reading Larry's post from any outsider point of view, how could one take serious offense to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Yes it is, for I didn't see a violation and, again my interpretation, you mis-applying the TOS does not make it right, so it is up for a debate. But again, that's just my stance. Further, in my opinion, you seem to be very selective as to what (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) As I have said the whole thread would not have occurred had he been man enough to apologize to NILTC and the library. He did apologize to me but then went forward with all this obfuscation and justification. His apologies are apparently (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Funny I've found quite a few "reasonable" people who found it offensive. Some of whom have posted it this thread. (...) It doesn't really matter what your view is because the TOU is very clear. Personal information will not be divulged with (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well since you "called" I came, and by no means do I claim to be a conflict resolutions manager nor a therapist (I just play one on Lugnet). I want to resist commenting directly on particulars because I truly do not want to add fuel to a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Refresh my memory on what a mundane is? (...) Well, I *think* that Ken read that meaning in what you wrote. The reason I think this is because he quoted that passage back to you on another node in this thread, and it's also what first came to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, he was talking about past postings to off-topic.debate, near as I can tell, so I don't think so. (...) I think so, yes. Not at all justified, but yes. (...) Certainly. It's written all over it, in the word choices used. (...) No. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Can we talk a little bit more about the messing it up issue? Do you think Larry was attacking you personally or NILTC as a whole by replying to the NILTC invitation? He has said since that his intention was not to attack you or anyone, but (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think Ken means that your correcting the word "Legos" was being picky. (...) I'm not precisely sure, but I think Ken felt that the pickiness slighted the NILTC announcement. (...) Do you mean that you think Ken bears you animosity now? Ken, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Again the facts have been posted multible times It's a waste of time to repost them. (...) Apparently there is nothing that can help. The facts have been laid out several times. All you want to do is obfuscate the facts and parse the words. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Do me a favour and explain it again for me, because I have read the previous postings, and I didn't see what the specific consequences of this asserted privacy violation were. We're going really slowly here to make sure that there is no (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If you missed them go back and re-read the previous postings. (...) It's pathetic that you can carry on with this and feel you have any credibility as a Lugnet administrator. -Ken (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) The attacking part came with the messing it up part it's an other issue. (...) What happend within a smaller group is not an invitation to take it public. (...) No I feel fired. Ken (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm not sure it's a given. What consequences do you feel are directly attributable to my actions? Please be specific by giving the specific action I took, and the consequence that directly followed? (...) I'm not sure you've demonstrated that. (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That wasn't for you to decide. (...) “I can't imagine him messing up this spectactularly." (...) Up untill you felt the need to screw with a public invitation and further can't take responsibility for your actions I felt no animosity. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That is true. (...) I don't think that it explicitly says the opposite, but regardless, you have a point. On the other hand, if Larry divulged personal information about you without knowing that it was private, do you think it is accurate to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Assuming the information is "personal" rather than "common knowledge". (...) I'm not sure what Ken means here, some elaboration might be helpful. What is it that I've been picky about, exactly? And how does my being "picky" correlate to the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) There is no clause that say’s it’s ok to divulge personal information if you didn’t know the person did not want it divulged. In fact it say’s exactly the opposite. If you don’t specifically have permission it is wrong. Friends could perhaps (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ok, I'm looking at the ToU agreement: (URL) do you mean that his divulging of your association with LEGO without your permission violated point #6 of the Discussion Group Terms and Conditions? That is to say, do you feel your privacy was (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, but divulging personal info without permission is obviously a violation of TOU (...) Hurtful no, but an obvious attack especilly when he himself has been so picky within debate forums where there should be more latitude for this type of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Hi Ken, (...) We're talking about this post: (URL) you feel that his associating your name with LEGO Brand Retail was a personal attack? Did you find his wording involving the words "messing up" hurtful? Was it the act of replying publicly to make a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thank you Todd, This has nothing to do with the exchange between Larry and Ken, but since I wanted to comment on your last paragraph I see no better place to post. As a member I appreciate you stating that a "feeling" is valid, and that it is (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) What can be more clear than the original post? Followed by the fact that instead of a simple appology to the library and NILTC that he had no buissnes spoiling their post he continues to make excusses and avoid responsibility. Conduct quite (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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