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Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ken Nagel wrote:
> No, but divulging personal info without permission is obviously a
> violation of TOU
Ok, I'm looking at the ToU agreement: http://www.lugnet.com/admin/terms/
Specifically, do you mean that his divulging of your association with LEGO
without your permission violated point #6 of the Discussion Group Terms
and Conditions? That is to say, do you feel your privacy was invaded by
his mentioning your association with LEGO? Do you believe that he knew
and understood that you wanted your association with LEGO kept private?
> > Did you find his wording involving the words "messing up" hurtful?
> Hurtful no, but an obvious attack especilly when he himself has been so
> picky within debate forums where there should be more latitude for this
> type of thing.
Larry, was it your intention to attack Ken or Ken's sensibilities when you
used the words "messing up"?
> > Was it the act of replying publicly to make a correction that you felt
> > was an attack? The cross-posting to .off-topic.fun?
> How about the fact that he felt the need to mess with a public invitation
> like that.
Do you mean that it was his intention to mess with the invitation for the
pleasure of it? Or do you mean that he should have worked harder to
curtail his natural-born pickiness in this case? Would it have felt less
like an attack to you if he had posted the same reply later down the road,
after the event had taken place? Or is nitpicking a club invitation just
completely wrong altogether?
When you saw Larry's reply to the NILTC invitation you posted, how did it
make you feel? Did you write Larry privately and let him know that you
felt hurt/attacked by what he posted, and ask him to cancel his post on
account of that? Or would have been pointless since the damage you felt
was already done?
> Obviously coupled with the fact that he seems to think the rules are for
> everyone else-Thus the Orwell reference.
Do you mean that Larry is, in your eyes, breaking the ToU while unfairly
enforcing it upon others?
I can't tell you you're wrong for feeling your privacy was violated; if
your employment with LEGO was something that you wanted kept strictly
confidential (and everyone who knew you worked for LEGO knew that you
wanted it kept confidential), then I certainly empathize with your feeling
extremely uncomfortable by someone divulging that information without your
permission. I'm pretty sure, however, that Larry didn't realize that he
was sharing confidential information when he included your employment
status in his post.
Larry, did you have any idea that Ken wanted his association with LEGO
kept confidential when you posted your reply to his NILTC invitation?
What do you think about Ken's feeling that his privacy was violated by
this?
--Todd
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| (...) There is no clause that says its ok to divulge personal information if you didnt know the person did not want it divulged. In fact it says exactly the opposite. If you dont specifically have permission it is wrong. Friends could perhaps (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) Assuming the information is "personal" rather than "common knowledge". (...) I'm not sure what Ken means here, some elaboration might be helpful. What is it that I've been picky about, exactly? And how does my being "picky" correlate to the (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) No, but divulging personal info without permission is obviously a violation of TOU (...) Hurtful no, but an obvious attack especilly when he himself has been so picky within debate forums where there should be more latitude for this type of (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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