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Re: who does chris think he is?
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto
Date: 
Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:06:59 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote:
> When I get to that bridge, my intention is to teach my kids something about
> "right time, right place."
> 
> Using the magic seven in .general might not be the right place, but to make a
> stronger emotional point in .debate, SURE.  Go for it.

Some would say that you don't need those seven to make any point that's worth
making.  I mean, when Madeline Albright or Paul Martin stood before the United
Nations, I didn't see them using those magic seven, did they?  I don't see
lawyers using profanity in the courtroom to make a point.  I don't even see Dan
Rather or Peter Mansbridge using profanity to tell us the news.  When I read a
blue collar paper like the Toronto Sun, even they don't swear in their op-ed
pieces.

So tell me why this is a requirement for you to?

> I wanted to say that your point regarding Lugnet being "for children" is wrong.
> 
> The ~TOY~ we talk about is for children. (and some adults)
> 
> BUT most of these forums are for adults.


> Do you get these letters?

And what if the answer is yes?  Cue argument that your morals are different than
others, so you shouldn't have them imposed on you.

> What I want to express is that the entire WORLD is a big bad scary place.

Yes, it certainly is.  But why use that as an argument in a place that doesn't
REQUIRE profanity to have profanity?

Try this on for size: "Graffiti is commonplace in big cities."  Is the resulting
action "Let's spray graffiti everywhere, it's a given."?

Simply put, I see this argument as:

Weirdo Churchie Types:  Let's save the children!

More Liberal Types (Chris, maybe Janey, etc): Who cares about the kids, I don't
care if my kids swear or hear swearing.

Weirdo Churchie Types:  (Rod and Todd voice) But swearing is bad!  You will be
be cast in h-e-double-implement-of-Canada's-national-pastime!

More Liberal Types:  (Eric Cartman voice) "You have warped my fragile wittle
mind!" The world is cruel and harsh.  I demand democracy and freedom of speech
(mind you, freedom of choice of words, not freedom of message) on this privately
operated web board with no constitution!  I will swear to my kids all I want!
Your churchie views don't represent me!

Weirdo Churchie Types: Yes, but laissez-faire views don't represent me either!

More Liberal Types:  But I WANT TO MAKE A POINT.

Weirdo Churchie Types: But so DO WE.

Me:  Why do we need to swear here when there isn't a need for such a thing?
We'll leave that to the rtlToronto meetings where we KNOW there aren't kids
around.  Stop trying to make a point.  Both sides know better.

The truth is, even if you had a TOS protected right to swear on Lugnet, you
probably wouldn't anyways.

Calum



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  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
In lugnet.admin.general, Calum Tsang wrote: <snip> (...) Didn't someone state recently that you had dreamy eyes? Well, I can't attest to that but as far as I'm concerned, you are an excellent voice o' reason! Nicely done. Dave K -who has a Geroge (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) Calum, You make some excellent points. I can even see that wishy-washy-easily-swayed Dave K says that you are right. BUT, Calum, you made my point in your very last sentence. At no point have I ever(STRESS EVER) advocated that I want to swear (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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(...) HI Scott. I have to say; i have met MORE people here recently than I have in a very long time. YES. I have Kids. www.themagnofamily.com When I get to that bridge, my intention is to teach my kids something about "right time, right place." (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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