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  Re: Brad - TLC needs to minimize packaging
 
John, (...) Oh, I agree with the concept of them doing what they are supposed to do. Having them in the first place, on the other hand.... Don't worry, John, I am having a case of me overgoverning again, and it just booms out of me every now and (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Brad - TLC needs to minimize packaging
 
Scott E. Sanburn wrote in message <386A025E.278F00DF@c...eb.net>... (...) A quick search on the net found that Japan and Germany have laws such as I mentioned, and, voila! so does the US, many of them in fact. Maybe you missed this pork while the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
Since Larry is the most eloquent than I can ever be, I will just agree with him and be done with this. Scott Larry Pieniazek wrote: < Snipped the Larry & Jasper commentary > ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn -> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Work Email -> (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Brad - TLC needs to minimize packaging
 
< Cross posted to off.topic.debate > (...) Well, all packages contain what they have in there (i.e. 5.5 oz, etc.) The packages may need downsizing, which I can agree with, but the government taking action against them? What agency should look at (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Why? Is it OK to break the law if it was long enough ago and you didn't get caught? That seems to be George W's perspective. Hogwash. It is either wrong and the law should be changed, or it isn't. (...) What do you mean? Quayle came right out (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) That one is actually beyond the statute of limitations and thus irrelevant. (...) That one is not proved and not provable, AFAIK. (...) And here you're agreeing with me. I don't however think Clinton is any worse than the alternative. Jasper (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Agreed. One cannot ignore a law because one feels it is unjust if one is a politician. One must stand up and say "I think this law is wrong and I will work to get it changed" and take the lumps, not secretly disobey it. If one cannot support (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Just a quickie here: This definition isn't "bloody": (URL) but I didn't see 80% mentioned in it. Rather, I saw the use of "exclusive" pretty much exclusively. 80% isn't exclusive, it isn't even close. So 80% share is NOT a monopoly. It's (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Microsoft has 80%+ market share in the consumer OS market. It is _by_bloody_definition_ a monopoly. (...) Amendment, BTW. (...) Kenn Starr should have been fired a long time before all the trouble started. If I didn't know better, I'd think he (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Direct Questions
 
(...) We're not lucky, just more market oriented. Not to mention smarter and handsomer. Seriously, you can't have it both ways. Of COURSE stuff is generally cheaper here (not just in dollar to dollar terms, but in terms of the time it takes to earn (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Really? I hadn't guessed! (...) Well, it seems apparent enough to me. If you disagree, that's fine, of course; we just see Al's analogy in two different ways. (...) I can see where a former actor, skilled in portraying himself in a number of (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) IIRC (and I am pretty darn sure I am), he had them demonstrate how a computer could function/not function with out IE installed. Again, IIRC, the Microsoft attorneys couldn't demonstrate conclusively that removing IE had any adverse effects. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
Dave, (...) Moderate? Boy, I can't wait (I being a proud partisan, BTW!) (...) No, not obviously. (...) Reagan and Bush had a million times more qualifications to man the nuclear arsenal than Al Gore or Bill, IMHO. Badly, as always. It isn't just a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) You used this as your SIG at one point, and I commented on it elsewhere, but since you bring it up here I thought I'd throw in an observation from a Moderate's viewpoint. Obviously Al is alluding to the nuclear "red button" of the Cold War (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
Jasper, (...) Well, considering the law in this case is something crafted against monopolies, which IMHO, Microsoft did not do. When you lower prices on items, and produce a product, instead of raising prices, it is bad law. I think this whole case (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Direct Questions
 
(...) Ahh, the upside to living in a culture that is insanely materialistic;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Irrelevant to a court case. The law is the law, and if it is being broken, it must be prosecuted. Not just ignorerd because some politicians feel the law is unjust. How would you feel if the second was effectively repealed in the way you're (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Direct Questions
 
(...) At this point in the discussion, I'd just like to say "You lucky American bastards!". (400 piece buckets tend to cost $20+, rather than $5 or $7, around here) Jasper (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Brad Justus' Comments - Why Complain?
 
Okay, I see that my intent was not clearly stated. I will give it another attempt. I was trying to present the idea that for those who disagree with Lego's comments about what is okay with them regards posting of retailer information, just because (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Most of the time, especially when the government messes with the private sector, in the ridiculous ruling against Microsoft. Especially considering the anti-trust laws are from the 1920's or 30's, which has no bearing in the marketplace today. (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
(...) Well, for those who believe in pink elephants (That's for you, Larry P. :) ) or God, I am glad. There is a real reason behind the season. It is hard to work in a retail establishment and see the people just go nuts. I rather have a nice day (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wayne Hussey's Comments - Why Not Complain? (was Re: Brad...)
 
(...) <snipped most of post that I agree with> I would argue (hence the .debate follow-up) that driving IS a priviledge as opposed to a right. The necessity of high-speed transfer of stuff (and it's effect on our economy) has nothing to do with it (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) I can attest to this. Here in Knoxville we have one cable company - now owned by Comcast. Our basic cable lineup doesn't include History, Sci-Fi, or Comedy Central. If you want those you have to pay $10 extra AND pay for a box - can't get them (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
(...) Ugh, see my post on .market.shopping and .loc.us.mi.det -- I think you're absolutely right on this one, Larry. Anyhow, can we qualify this New Years'--what with Y2K and all--as a "commercialized holiday?" (I mean, it's not holy, but darned if (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Or else they'll have to admit that it's a necessary evil, or just ignore the statement in practice. Was this a civil court or a religious court? I don't think they're one and the same in Pakistan, but I haven't been keeping up with late (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Sorry, there is NO WAY I'm going to agree with privatized highways. That leads to tollbooths every 200 ft, with the Companies basically holding you for ransom to get anywhere. And you'll never know on a cross-state trip whether or not you have (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Highways are the hardest. I'd be happy to see them privatized last, but they're no big deal, really. But you miss my point. Merely asserting that the market has failed to produce something doesn't meet my criterion, above, of demonstrating (...) (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Have you seen the market produce a viable system of highways? Of high-speed digital lines? I rest my case. (...) You sure do. (...) Stop speaking for me. Presuming you know what I think is a bit much, especially in the face of the evidence to (...) (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Sheer poppycock. Please demonstrate to me how exactly the market has failed to provide infrastructure when allowed to do so. Be specific. Include underlying assumptions. And the onus is on you to prove it hasn't, as I am not trying to convince (...) (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) I notice you haven't convinced me of that yet. Why are railways properly private? Why are highways properly private? It's not because they result in less drag on the economy, because the increased competition you keep harping on can only (...) (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Easy, railways properly are private. Try to keep up, eh? The only proper functions of government are the courts, the police, and national defense. Old ground. (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
(...) It's not over yet, the best part starts early sunday AM!!! Clearance Sales! Although I predict the pickings will be bad this year, this was one of the best seasons for retailers ever in the US, and they're getting better at stock management. (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
Underlying assumption of the article given are taken over by me, overstated ridiculousness ignored. (...) How do you expect the economy to cope with an unlimited influx of immigrants? (...) Anyone who doesn't want airplanes to be certified safe and (...) (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train?
 
(...) Hiya Larry ;) (...) Absolutely. What does that have to do with railways? Or highways, for that matter? I'll do my best to poke logical holes in what you write, so be careful ;) Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
(...) Valentine's day isn't commercialised here yet, anyway. Besides, I've just learnt how to make my own chocolates. Man, do they taste _good_. Jasper (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
(...) Much better, thanks. I've been wanting to bring that up but cou;dn't find the right moment. Now for pointless pedantry.. Do you think you could include a proper sig delimiter? It consist of "\n-- \n", or in other words, (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) ITYM South Park. Jasper (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Sold for scrap metal would suggest to me a few options: these things were so outdated they figured it's OK since every secret service in the world would have stolen at least one once (apparently not the case, as you learned stuff :) ), or the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) That's what I figured, but hey, what's life without a little smart-arse remark now and then. (...) It happens. You know what (don't tell anybody else I said this, mind!): It's happened to me too. More than once. Imagine that... Jasper (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) So how do you feel about that plan to take all the decommisioned used-to-be-nukes missiles and loading them up with lots of fake meteorites for the millennium next year? (...) The problem is getting it there before the Patriots shoot it down (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
(...) Sorry, that should have been Febuary. Bad fingers, bad. -- Erin (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is anyone happy?
 
Erin Windross wrote in message ... (...) on (...) know (...) Don't they have Valentine's Day where you live? -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) Hooray! Hooray! Its Y2K! A new decade starts next year. (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Is anyone happy?
 
Is anyone here happy Christmas is over? I for one am. No more crowded malls (well except for boxing day), no more circling for ages until you find a parking spot, no tearing the hair out of another persons scalp to get to the last furby, no more (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Really? My information was incorrect, then. I must admit "The modern terrorist's guide to building the atom bomb" isn't all that likely to be completely accurate, of course ;) (somehing like that. It's on the net somewhere, anyway, though I (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Okay, sorry. I see that you are talking something like my language. And I wasn't using the bible to justify anything, merely pointing out the many faiths have this idea in there somewhere (relating it back to another offshoot of this thread). (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) No bet. I keep thinking (at 2 am or so) that none==no OR negative. I should have just said negative too. (...) I was insufficiently precise and what you said is what I meant to say, basically. (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
Whoa, whoa... (...) This, above, has almost NOTHING to do with interest. It so happens that I agree with some (most? almost all?) of your points(1). I'd prefer that my money be issued by a private bank, and backed by something tangible, instead of (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Nope. Between 1.5Kt and 20-40Kt for a straight Fission weapon. Dirtyness has very little to do with the weapon itself. If the bomb is a airburst, then it will be relatively clean, if it is a ground burst, it will be dirty (it takes the crap (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) load (...) a (...) Oops :) Mind you, I have no doubt that they were -scrap- metal, and probably useless as rockets (except for Guy Fawks Night/4th July type rockets :) ds on who's "they". The US has had suborbital missiles capable of (...) (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) It's Ok then,..:-) (...) Yeah. again when I was a rocket scientist, once we took delivery of trucks load of abondoned missiles and missle parts from the former USSR which were having a strange story. a Turkish trader who were buying and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) It's Ok then,..:-) (...) Yeah. again when I was a rocket scientist, once we took delivery of trucks load of abondoned missiles and missle parts from the former USSR which were having a strange story. a Turkish trader who were buying and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) That's probably _because_ I'm not a native speaker. Okay, let me rephrase that. "Even though that is a sad thought, it happens to be truth" (or possibly even TRVTH..) (...) Yeah. At least the US won't be taken over by junta number x tomorrow. (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Well, I am not sure about the exact nature of your hypothetical, but how about the way one uses an ATM for different purposes -- your use being contigent on available money in the account. The account itself is simply paid for with a service (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Exactly. Try running a global economy filled with 80 % utter lusers on it. We're talking about people who need to call Support to tie their shoelaces. And then still can't. (...) In the real world, as well. But can you see me shipping three (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) <snip> (...) Your English is much more challenging then even the native English speakers. I can't understand this sentences at all..:-( (...) Yeah, I know. A third worlder with nukes, its even more frighthening, huh? (1) But it is not that (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Barter is a fantastic system. It's only drawback is that it becomes impractical as volume increases, and it requires all participants to have an idea of the value of goods. It's only TWO drawbacks are... ;) (seriously, though - barter is GREAT (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Well, if you're smart you're paying that balance every month (or your company is), so the CC company wouldn't be making anything off the meal from you anyway. They'd be making their 2-4% from the restaurant for the transaction. :) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Charge card? Electronic cash is EVIL. We should all return to barter as a payment system. So that's no problem at all.[1] BTW, Richard, on the subject of thread-drift: You don't own the thread or even the subthread because you started it, this (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) I'll give you three to one odds and go for "dramtically negative", myself. (...) Interestingly, I've heard one rumour that this is _exactly_ what they're doing. I suppose the system of investing in companies in exchange for shares in it (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Seems I forgot the "<snort>" here. (...) As sad as that sometimes seems to people. Unfortunate truths, and alla that. (...) Pakistan is a nuclear power nowadays. Worrying, since they're so close to Europe. Fallout from a fullscale (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Interesting, take me through how my charge card company would get a stake in the profits when I charge a meal for a client? Are you sure that's a workable suggestion? Do I have to give them an accounting of how exactly that meal resulted in (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) I think this thread has gotten VERY far from anything I wanted to talk about, even as off-topic debate, but even the bible prohibits usary (not a word my spell-checker catches). But in any case, my brief point would have been to point out that (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) I'm gonna go with "none" unless they find some way to redefine rewarding the owner of capital for risking his capital as something other than "interest". I rank banning interest right up there with defining Pi as exactly 3. Both are about the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:387356c2.218055...net.com... (...) understand why (...) 12 of (...) I don't think so. We have a party here, which defends fundamentalist opinions mostly, claimed once (before they came (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
Scott E. Sanburn <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote in message news:38627C2F.33E2A1...web.net... (...) the (...) What?..Communist News Network?..Muhahhahaaa..I was believing well emposed communism paranoia (once upon a time, US fired even Chaplin from (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
[Yes, responding to my own post. New information.] (...) The latest news is that a court in Pakistan has just in essence subscribed to your views. They say interest is against the the Qur'An. By 2001 Pakistan will have to have an economy without the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
Oh yeah, I also mentioned Todd Lehman and James Jessiman by name. I mentioned Todd for the great work on lugnet and James for his LDraw program. Whether or not that gets aired is yet to be seen, but I figured at least those two names had to be (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
(...) How's this, Mr. Lehman? Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn CAD Operator Affiliated Engineers, Inc. LEGO Page: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
(...) When CNN comes to your neighborhood, I'm sure you can find plenty of ways to shoo them away. Until then, way to go, Greg!! --Todd [followups to lugnet.off-topic.debate] (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: CNN just left my house
 
Cross posted to off.topic.debate (...) hmm, that's neat, but I would have second thoughts about having the Communist News Network, or the Clinton News Network anywhere near my place, but that is just me! Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) Doh! Was that my snipping error? If so, I apologize for getting in your face about it. (...) I'll have to watch more carefully in the future--who knows what I'm missing? Dave! (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) What you are responding to is some creative snipping. I'm pretty sure that footnote regarding Chicago Hope is from one of my posts a while ago. The person who said that the F bomb has arrived many times already *wasn't* me. (...) Yeah, I was (...) (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) You don't watch TV, but you hear these words on the Simpsons "all the time"? That's a neat trick! On which episode has the F word been used? I'm pretty sure I've seen them all, and I've never heard that. Dave! (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
<snip> (...) The "F bomb" has arrived many times already... I hear F*ck and D*mn and B*tch and B*stard on the Simpsons all the time.... Jameson Robert Gagnepain (URL) 17714608 (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) First, to answer Christopher-- No, it's not ok-- get into therapy NOW;-) (...) Well, give guys a break, sproat. There are mitigating factors involved, such as the fact that we are genetically programmed to respond in a sexual way to breasts (...) (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) What cracks me up is that a woman's nipple is the single most useful item on the breast. It's like, showing a water fountain, but blacking out the nozzle. How did breasts get to be so obscene? IMO, a thong bikini is more obscene (and painful (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) Good points, and bravo to you for bringing this debate out of the realm of the pointlessly theorical and putting it back into Lugnet! (...) Agreed. Some people might not like this seeming Monarchy of Lugnet, but it *is* Todd's sandbox (as (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) Ok- got me there. (...) Yes! Both, I think. I just chose objectionable because I was trying to make a definition that wasn't circular. (Obsenity is obscene, fearful things make you feel afraid) Perhaps "extremely objectionable" is a better (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) Well, how about another AFOL acronym- CRAPP- obviously NOT "polite usage." I think that it is a convention thing- defined by the community- in this case, however, since LUGNET is worldwide, I guess the standards are Todd's. So I would tender a (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) state; (...) Let me start by saying I think we agree on the meat of the issue. However, I think some people are succumbing to the falacy that in order to exist, something must be identifiable in words, which is surely not the case. I can't (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) Obscene is one of a number of slippery words that are contextually defined. In most english speaking countries, for example, bodily waste is refered to by multiple terms, some "obscene", some not. It generally depends on the context for most (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) here's a fun one I thought of a while back- Given- showing a man shirtless on TV with nipples exposed is ok. Given- showing a shirtless woman on TV is ok as long as we black out the nipples. Question- If I were to take the area of the woman's (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) Then tell me what "obscenity" is, since it exists. (...) That's my point about how subjective it is. One zealot who says any word/image/sound/obj...ought/farm animal is obscene is a crazy man- if we get enough of those zealots together, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Panaka is yellow?
 
(...) If LEGO wants to do that, fine. I hope there will be a classic smiley face head (in at least yellow head) accessory pack. I really have a hard time equipping Classic Spacemen with the awful new heads they have been coming out with. None of (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Language slipping?
 
(...) I don't think anyone would argue that obscenity is anything other than a social and/or personal convention, rather than some inherent quality or state; it's largely a matter of consensus. That's not to say obscenity doesn't "exist"--it exists (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Panaka is yellow?
 
(...) Perhaps Lego could just say they were all Danish before. ;-) At any rate, whatever political condemnation TLC might get, not only would it be minor and virtually unheard by the REAL target market (i.e. the kiddies' parents, which may be more (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Panaka is yellow?
 
(...) Well spoken, Scott. This whole skin-tone thing must've started back in the 60's..what'd they have for part color back then? Red, Yellow, Blue, Black and White? Given those choices, I guess it was easy enough to just crank out the yellow heads, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Panaka is yellow?
 
(...) I just built it before coming to work this morning, and saw the pictures as well. it looks like they repeated the series of pictures twice. maybe they screwed up? If it is Panaka (We call him Captain Pancake at the office - Long story, along (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: Adventurer Maps
 
(...) I saw a website that had theorized they used water - essentially making an artifical lake, and building a pyramid in it (very simplified), which seemed more feasable than many theories I've heard. <plays the URL hunt game>.. Here: (URL) stuff. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Adventurer Maps
 
(...) I don't believe it. Sandstone doesn't form naturally that easily, it needs a lot of pressure. Besides, that would mean that they were poured _nearly into place, and then they removed the pouring case from under it - if they had poured it, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
 
(...) I should have realised it sooner. However, it's best to remember, that when discussing theory, it's best to think in "theoretical" boxes rather than actual ones. (...) Heh. (...) They're quite possibly fairly irrelevant on Lugnet, what with it (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Nitpick: Usury. (...) Because moneylending is as close as anything can get to being the one thing that makes this world possible. Do you know how many more times there is "virtual" money compared to real-world assets? Where do you think Intel, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Adventurer Maps
 
(...) What about the theory that the blocks are a type of cement? That they were poured into place? I don't remember who put forth that theory, but it was on one of the (numerous) shows about the pyramids. Jeff P.S. Did you know that Europe/Africa (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Adventurer Maps
 
Nephilim wrote in message ... (...) the (...) and (...) the (...) we? (...) it (...) I find this interesting. I didn't check the link, but the quote above has a certain je ne sais quoi. While it sounds good, its not believable. Just because five (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Non-LEGO Tax Debate - Was:(Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?)
 
To all, I think we have debated on taxes a lot from off.topic.debate, I know I chimed in my views as well. It is one of those things that no one really likes all that well, and I for one, would like to see the government go back to the roots which (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
David Eaton wrote in message ... (...) not be (...) in (...) 5 to (...) line (...) independantly. (...) (as (...) to (...) don't (...) "should" (...) they (...) While I agree to a point with you, I also agree to a point with Chris. I don't think (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) You want me to cosign your view on banks and usary? Not I. The fact that the world banks are playing an increasingly elaborate shell game of "where's the digital money" does nothing but disgust me. Unless you are yourself a bank owner, I (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jasper Janssen writes: <snipped Q&D explanation of firewalls & so forth> (...) I will bow to your expertise. Yes, I did (instinctively) take your reference to webserver to mean a physical box - that's probably because if (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
 
(...) A firewall is generally a machine on the internet at large, yes. The things protected by it aren't, in the sense that some things are filtered out by said firewall. A firewall is logically, and usually physically, not a webserver, or a (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Didn't I mention that the topic had drifted way away from toy auctions and into taxes in general? Or did you just not read anything I wrote? (...) I notice you don't bother to address any of the actual points, though. Jasper (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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