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Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Wed, 29 Dec 1999 02:45:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jasper Janssen writes:
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:42:57 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
wrote:

Agreed. One cannot ignore a law because one feels it is unjust if one is
a politician. One must stand up and say "I think this law is wrong and I
will work to get it changed" and take the lumps, not secretly disobey
it. If one cannot support the law, one must work to get it changed.

For instance, one cannot:

- use drugs in college and later say "well I was a kid, but that was a
long time ago"...

That one is actually beyond the statute of limitations and thus
irrelevant.

Why? Is it OK to break the law if it was long enough ago and you didn't get
caught? That seems to be George W's perspective. Hogwash. It is either wrong
and the law should be changed, or it isn't.

- evade the draft by using family pull to get deferment after deferment

That one is not proved and not provable, AFAIK.

What do you mean? Quayle came right out and admitted he did that. I'd accept
that as proof enough. He wasn't bright enough to think through what it meant
but that's not my problem.

- solicit campaign contributions inappropriately and later say "well I
didn't know what the law was here and besides it didn't do any harm"

- perjure one self instead of coming out against sexual harassment
lawsuits as an invasion of privacy.

And here you're agreeing with me.

Who said I wasn't? Didn't I start my post with "I agree."?? Try to keep up, eh?

I don't however think Clinton is any worse than the alternative.

Who said I was talking about Clinton? Not in any of these 4 cases, I wasn't.
The fact that he may or may not have done some of them hadn't crossed my mind,
honest! Trust me.

++Lar



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  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Can you honestly tell me that you have never ever in your youth swiped a candybar or something similar from a store? Taken a pen home with you from school? etc.? The point isn't that it wasn't _wrong_, it's that after <mumble> years, there is (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) That one is actually beyond the statute of limitations and thus irrelevant. (...) That one is not proved and not provable, AFAIK. (...) And here you're agreeing with me. I don't however think Clinton is any worse than the alternative. Jasper (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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