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(...) So, are you saying that heterosexuals in prison who engage in homosexual sex are still heterosexuals? This is an interesting distinction and I have heard it before among Latin men. They believe that they can have sex with a Gay man (they, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's pretty much proven by evolution, if nothing else. Heterosexual pairings can produce offspring, but homosexual ones can't, therefore the heterosexual lifestyle is self-propogating and the homosexual one isn't. (...) Survival of the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I wouldn't count on it. I had a friend in college who was very close to getting married when he finally stopped fooling himself with delusions of heterosexuality. A lot of our mutual friends were about as surprised as they are when they see (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes I am and yes they are for the basis of this dicussion. Both involve sexual attraction the only difference being whether or not this attraction is directed towards the same or opposite sex. I think the direct comparison is obvious. -Orion (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Scratch "normative". "Norm" would have been a better choice. (...) Yes, that is how I was intending the word to be understood. (...) Agreed. I didn't mean to attach a pejorative meaning to "not normal". I was just reacting to something that (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Normative: That which is not perceived or experienced by members of a society as odd, peculiar, outlandish, or even as deserving of unusual attention, because either: (a) it is culturally typical, conventional, and encountered commonly in the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Even if they are only attracted to women, and only sleep with women? There is nothing in the definition of heterosexual that says you have to be REPULSED by homosexuality. How much "homosexual tendency" does a heterosexual have to have before (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps he's like the White Queen, who could "believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast" :-) Kevin (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ok, got it. I had come across that term before but didn't class it as "buying into the gay lifestyle". For one thing, that particular group of behaviours (well groomed, fit and trim, with it trendwise, fashionably dressed etc) plays off only (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, the ones that didn't I wouldn't categorize as "heterosexual", but as "heterosexual with homosexual tendencies", or some other such qualification. JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You've asked them all, have you? I would say many heterosexuals would probably have such revulsion, but I wouldn't be arrogant enought to assume they ALL do. ROSCO (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in homosexual sex. I wouldn't put that "feeling" on par with even incest, which probably is just deep taboo (whatever that is). JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Google for "Metrosexual". Not "swishy", but perhaps hitting some of the stereotypes (well groomed, fit and trim, with it trendwise, fashionably dressed, etc...) that people have (c.f. _Queer Eye for the Straight Guy_ which clearly (seems to, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gay community, meaning G/L/B/T? (...) A personal who grows up heterosexual, and, for whatever reason, decides to forsake that and lead a gay lifestyle. I'm assuming this is possible-- that they weren't just repressing their gayness until a (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm. Can we do that? You are implying that the two are equal and interchangable things. It seems to me that being heterosexual is the default, and then something happens (socialization, etc), and some become gay. There is a great deal of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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John wrote in message ... (...) That (...) Merely (...) Basically, yes. But some people distinguish between homosexual (attracted to the same sex) and gay (attracted to the same sex and itentifying themselves as part of the gay community). (...) Not (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We can't be sure, but the fact that non-human animals have demonstrated homosexual preferences suggests that it could very well be genetic for many people. For others it could be psychological (horribly traumatized by one or more members of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Logic dictates that he cannot think that LGBT tendancies are genetically influenced, since simultaneously claiming them to be sinful would be as socially regressive as saying that it's sinful to be born with a birthspot. He can't have it both (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John asked a simple question which I think is a common misconception. It can be summed up with a few definitions which should help clarify (and these definitions are scholarly, you can disagree with them if you wish - I'm just putting out (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's turn the tables on that question. What makes someone hetero? Merely the fact that they are attracted to the opposite sex? If the answer is no to the above questions does that mean that virgins are neither homosexual or heterosexual but (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What definition are you talking about?? I was simply asking a question and he posts, puts words into my mouth and then calls it *sick*. Needless to say I didn't appreciate his tangental interruption into an area I had had a genuine interest to (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I strongly considered correcting Terry, but noted that he wasn't calling you sick, rather your definition sick. Nevertheless, his tone does concern me and other LUGNET admins and we're keeping a close eye on his posts too [1]. Terry -- please (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ahh, pejorative remarks like being called "*sick*"? Gotcha. JOHN (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No thats an effect, not a cause. (...) I would tend to think they're more likely to consider themselves bi, or a repressed gay that's been trying out hetero for a while (for whatever reason). ROSCO (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "What does made someone gay?". Deer, deer, the buck stops here. (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, please tone down your comments a bit. It's OK to clarify what your intent was, its not OK to hurl a pejorative remark like that. Thanks. -Tim (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, you moron, I'm simply asking a question. JOHN (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How about teens who are not sexually active yet? Or maybe people who simply never had a lover yet. Maybe even those religious zealot who "preserve" themselves for the "right" person? What you're saying, John, is that you were NOT hetero until (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You could always behead them, then if they haven't re-offended in 6 months, re-attach their head. Or maybe the offenders could be strapped to the fronts of modified dune-buggies like in the movie 'Mad Max 2'. pete.w (who drives in the slow (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think a permanent punishment is in order at all. I'd say 6 months or so would be more than adequate to 1) make sure the offender never, ever drives recklessly again, and 2) all he comes into contact with on the road think very (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The parents of Rachel Blasingame, the victim, praised the unusual sentence." Unusual. I think they summed up why I doubt this will not be carried out. Let's mock people in stocks! How about a scarlet letter? Maybe a tattoo on the forehead so (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I don't normally start topics in o-t.d, but seeing that this article caught my interest I thought I would. Plus, it may divert attention away from other discussions. Driver humiliated by Texas judge: (URL) thoughts? If this becomes common practice (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not, it is utter claptrap. Scott A (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Please review the rules against baiting, Terry. This sort of tone is not appropriate, even in off-topic.debate The admins are going to be taking a jaundiced view of inflammatory posts, of whatever stripe, on this topic. or others. Larry (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh I believe you DO want to offend gays. And NO, it's not the truth. I do not find it repulsive. I would in fact say that I find it nice to see people loving each other freely nowadays, compared to some eras or some places in the world where (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Knowing someone is gay doesn't tell you anything about their sex life any more than knowing someone is heterosexual tells you anything about their sex life. It doesn't tell you if they've ever had sex, or if they ever will. Maybe I'm naive. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) LOL at obscure reference to infamous .Space history! (I didn't see your link to that thread until typing this reply, because the HTML link was only applied to the last period you typed.) I've no idea where to FUT this, so I'll leave it (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Just about every time I've been completely disgusted by a post on Lugnet, it's been for this reason. "Or else Dave! is correct?" So many people around here turn everything into an us-vs-them. Somebody disagrees with your ideas, you could (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have to apologize to Chris as I misread the nested message and said he posted to ask the person to remove his posts - Scott Arthur did that. So I was wrong to say he called for it. I will say that Chris probably didn't have a problem with (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nope, I'm dead-on correct. (...) Again, nope. I described you to a tee. I'm not telling anyone they ought to cancel their posts like you have. I am for the debate if you've read these threads. I'm not in favor of censoring the discussion. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Nope, what I was saying is that your own preconceived biases made you assume that someone asking for a hetero group at this present time was doing so 'to get even/keep up with the homosexual Joneses' rather than it being a legitimate request. You (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Pelletier wrote: [SNIP] (...) Jeff, you may be referring to some of my statements, and I will simply flat out tell you it's based on my personal experiences with gay people and also reading the published/blog (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote: [SNIP] (...) (sarcasm on) Ummmmm, Dave, yeah, we have conversations about this all the time. You must have overheard us. (sarcasm off) We're not the ones obsessed with defining ourselves primarily by (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Verbal gymnastics from Kevin. Sexual orientation may not tell you the specific acts a particular couple performs in bed, but you'd have to be an idiot not to know THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE ACTS two men or two women might do in bed together (same (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why don't you mind your own snipping beeswax? JOHN (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nope David, you're totally wrong about acceptance. Acceptance equals approval of it as something legitimate, something you can agree with even if you don't participate. Toleration means you give others the same freedom you have to make right (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well, My thoughts... The Wyld Stalyns got it right: "Be Excellent To Each Other!"...."Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" was ahead of it's time.. oh, geez...ok, realized that was a bad pun in itself... Ok, I might incite a religious riot after the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, I think you're starting to cross the line here, even for off-topic.debate... take a stress tab and think about the success of the mission. (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You are completely right about MOCs being able to be posted in other groups. I intend, where appropriate, to cross-post any MOCs that I would post. Some people may not, its their choice I guess. (...) The short answer (and thats difficult) (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, so put your money where your mouth is and give the pudding a chance to prove itself. If it goes unused, you're right, and no harm done, except the loss of Todd's time in setting up the newsgroup. If it sees use, you're wrong, and there's (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Jeff Pelletier" <jeff@studio7733.com> wrote in message news:I49Bsw.1BDI@lugnet.com... (...) it: (...) MOCS (...) it (...) does (...) brought (...) gay (...) Hill, (...) is a (...) the (...) the (...) clue (...) is the (...) large (...) As a (...) (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Joakim, No problem asking. Several examples of LGBT related MOCs were already brought up, but to recap: there was a castle inhabited by lesbians, a gay bar, a gay "ghetto" (most big cities have one - NYC's Chelsea, Seattle's Capitol Hill, (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello! (...) It still makes me feel good. It's not what I had expected when I sent the money but that doesn't mean I'm disappointed. I would not want to leave. Where else is it possible to discuss anything and everything with people who you don't (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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Hello! (...) Since I'm an untransgendered hetero I don't need to be okay with such lifestyles. (...) That's only an assumption. (...) *sigh* To fail constantly is my destiny. Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clarity, Chris. That's all I want. I think you will find that your views are in the vast minority. (...) Excuse me??? What exactly do you mean by "get off"? Why don't you just shut your ignorant piehole, Chris. And who is this "most of us" you (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hello! (...) This thread is the reason why a LGBT subgroup is needed now. Because NOW nobody who was involved in this thread has an unbiassed view upon this matter anymore. ;) Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Except it'd more likely be lugnet.people.(your country).(your state).(your city).(your street).kyle., just in the unforseen circumstance that there is another Kyle. Don't get me wrong, I reckon lugnet.(incredibly convoluted heirarchy).kyle (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org, FTX)
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"Jeff Pelletier" <jeff@studio7733.com> wrote in message news:I496JG.Io6@lugnet.com... snipped some old stuff. (...) more and (...) to (...) in (...) No (...) is (...) think (...) would (...) speak (...) ignorant to (...) civil (...) can't (...) (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I couldn't agree more with what David said. As a gay person, I ask no more and no less than to speak equally with someone. If a straight person I talk to mentions "I went to the Lego store with my wife, blah blah blah" then I do in fact desire (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, controversy on LUGNET. Will wonders never cease? ;] Damn I'm going to regret this. Oh well, as long as my post is more coherent than JAL's, I've done good. ;] I have formed a theory. Here's a pictorial representation of part of my theory: (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) But here, we can discuss and remain largely civil. Chris (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah! So you're merely incorrect. (...) I think you've confused the sides here. You've described yourself pretty perfectly, as far as I can infer. Chris (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought it was insane asylum inmates. Chris (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, many people are bi. Gays are gay and straights are straight. Everyone else is bi. Chris (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) overt (...) I'll accept that if you never mention your wife... Or indicate that Ross is your son (since that also comes with pre-conceived baggage about your sexuality - or even firm baggage if some folks have their way and only man-woman (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have NO problem with that. It should be the norm. (...) Because to lock it in taboo damages people. I know you get off on people being harmed in various ways, but most of us do not. (...) ??? What a crock. (...) The historical body of (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The tone of your post fairly well indicates that you're hetero, you're not okay with LGBT lifestyles, and you don't really think it should be completely left to Todd to decide. I'd say you failed on the right parts and succeeded on the wrong (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Alfred: Name-calling like this just isn't helpful. In theory, the word naturally has one clear definition. In reality, everyone has a different definition of what the word means. --Todd (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, before you snipped it, the particular point being discussed was PDA. (...) The point I was trying to make is that sexuality is private thing and that overt attempts to disclose personal matters is appropriate IMO. (...) ARRRG (not (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thank you, Lewis. -Tim (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree James, Lugnet is about lego, it is not about race, creed, politics, or sexual orientation. Like it or not, sexual orientation is a controversial subject. Some people on this group strongly disagree with the lifestyle, some strongly (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !!
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(...) Not picking on you particularly Jojo, since this has been said several times by several people in different ways in this thread. There are a couple of points here. Firstly, heterosexuals frequently mention their sexual orientation. How? By (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's not what's being debated here. The public display of sexual orientation is. There is a hugely vast difference between having an orgy in the nearest intersection and publicly acknowledging that your SO shops in the same section of the (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, they think it's performance art. Voyeurs think it's a spectator sport. (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, well then you get sent to the Pit of People Condemned to Read "As I Lay Dying", Chapter 19. *shudder* (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello! (...) Oh, it wasn't meant completely unserious. For example (URL) this> was inspired by (URL) this>. And (URL) this> was built after (URL) this>. I did several other "Renditions" of Playmobil models in LEGO in the past that are not documented (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org, FTX)
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Hello! Before I started posting to this thread I made the following decisions: 1. I would not say anything revealing my own sexual preferences, whatever they might be. 2. I would not say anything like "personally I'm not [this] but hey! if people (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See Todd Lehman's response as to what Lugnet is. I had reserved my own opinion on the whole subject with the note that Lehman is the arbitrator of what Lugnet is, and knows his own philosophy on it better than I do. (...) And this is merely (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Since I am (I believe) the one who started using the homophobic term in this thread, let me add that I am happily married, striaght, catholic male. Not that any of that matters, really, but you seem to be saying that the homosexuals here are (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Lee: LUGNET newsgroup theory is all about identifying subsets of interest within the community and creating focused discussion groups for those subsets, both LEGO-related and non-LEGO-related; it's about creating and nurturing individual areas (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
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(...) Oh ya, I forgot that you can say anything you want and it's assumed true until someone can prove otherwise... In that case, can I start ribald rumors about you? I bet I can come up with some that you can never truly refute. ~Kevoh (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I get it. You clearly didn't read what I said. You _might_ be right. There _might_ be people interested in such a hetero discussion group. But why would you assume a group is needed just because a homosexual group is asked for? Neither of you (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Bruce wrote: 'They want a place to post with people who are comfortable with what they are.' Bruce, if this is the main reason they want the group, it has nothing to do with Lego - Lego is incidental at best. The primary reason is for them to (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bruce, it is clear from your posts you don't understand what true homophobia is. It is irrational fear/hatred of homosexuals. You do corectly point out that it is not mere disagreements concerning homosexual behavior. But a heterosexual being (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think I counted five last night, and you'd be a sixth. Welcome to the thread, BTW! --Todd (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Hi Cyndi, your post is probably one of the better reasoned ones I've read on this issue. Lots of 'hets' are not opposed to the idea because people are gay (it may be a factor for some, and some don't care at all), but because they are opposed (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) <SNIP> (...) I knew someone would have a problem if someone wanted equal treatment and said then we better have a heterosexual Lego user group. I wonder why Alfred has no qualms about asking the heterosexual person if their group is really (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Anthony Sava wrote: <snip> (...) I think Anthony has hit the nail on the head here. If you open the gate to create a group whose primary focus is not Lego but homosexuality and therefore off-topic, you will have to allow (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Johannes, I think you stated yourself very well on these points. The issue that underlies this is that these people want you to know they are gay - they don't want you to assume the are not because they are offended at being assumed to be gay (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I always liked my mother's succinct summation of Reader's Digest: premasticated literature. But I must admit, the Groucho Marx Dilemma would be woise (Help, help, let me out of here! At least throw me a magazine). Locked in a bathroom for (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh well, no worries :-) Shocking thought it may be, I *like* Readers Digest. Anything with words on a page can't be all bad, right? It could have been worse. It could have been the same cornflake package for all eternity. At least with RD I (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Allow me to politely disagree with this view. I don't think they are seeking any sort of approval - they seem to just wish to avoid disapproval, which is not the same thing. Basically, they just want to post with people who are comfortable (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I won't swear to it, but I think that puts you in the Pit of People Condemned to read Reader's Digest for All Eternity. If it didn't have any sugar in addition to being decaffienated, you'd simply be an atheist. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm. So what happens to people like me, who drink supermarket generic cola, non-caffienated, but with all the usual sugar? I'm just dying to know :-) Kevin (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) I am in agreement with you as well. It doesn't matter as long as you love building with good old Lego! James, I can tell you why this is an issue with homosexuals. They want to tell other people they are gay because unless they are blatant (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !!
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(...) build.fantasy is a good idea. I would support it. I don't see why Teddy asking for a .people.lgbt is any less legitamate, thoa. Really, Lugnet grows in fits and spurts sometimes, so I guess if you asked before and it wasn't granted, you have a (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) (snip) (...) You might have to resort to Christian Science to prove that one ;) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Offensive as Jesse is, its actually kinda fun to have him around for comic relief, when he shows up. -Tim (certified Communist and Fascist, according to Jesse) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was going to write what you just posted, Dave, but I didn't look hard enough to find the right line in the LUGNET terms of use. With that said, it's open threats like the one Jesse posted that would make me ban the poster immediately if I (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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