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Re: Lavender Brick Society
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Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:35:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Johannes Koehler wrote:
> > This is, in my opinion, one of the reasons why not-gay people may have mixed
> > feelings towards gays. It's kind of offending when somebody is obtruding you the
> > knowledge about his/her sexual orientation or preferences. It's not even
> > necassary to be frigid or overly conservative for not wanting to know this.
> > Heterosexual men don't want to be told by every woman her sexual secrets, nor do
> > heterosexual women (I assume) want to be told this by every man.
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> Not picking on you particularly Jojo, since this has been said several times by
> several people in different ways in this thread.
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> There are a couple of points here. Firstly, heterosexuals frequently mention
> their sexual orientation. How? By referring to their Significant Other in terms
> which make that person's gender clear. Every time a poster on LUGNET mentions
> his or her wife, husband, girlfriend, boyfriend... every cake topper or wedding
> announcement, birth announcement etc... tells us something (though possibly not
> everything) about the sexual orientation of those involved.
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> So, how many people who don't want to know anyone else's sexual orientation were
> offended by this?
> http://news.lugnet.com/build/?n=15173
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> Nobody, I hope. Posts like that are perfectly appropriate. Interesting that he
> didn't know quite where to put it, though. Perhaps we do need a people.het!
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> Secondly, knowing someone's sexual orientation is not the same as "sexual
> secrets". It tells you what gender of people they fall in love with, have
> partner relationships with, build a family with, have sex with. It doesn't tell
> you what they do in bed. Anything of that nature is coming out of the person
> hearing the declaration's imagination.
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> Kevin
Verbal gymnastics from Kevin. Sexual orientation may not tell you the specific
acts a particular couple performs in bed, but you'd have to be an idiot not to
know THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE ACTS two men or two women might do in bed together
(same with 'hets' as you call us, too, although I suppose it's better than
'breeders'). Come on, before the modern term of 'homosexual' was coined into
English, everyone knew what a sodomite was, and what kinds of specific acts it
was referring to. Don't try to play naive here - none of us has just fallen off
the turnip truck lately.
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| (...) Whether you're wrong or right, what does it matter? Are you actually offended by the sexual acts that these two men might perform? Is that actually even what this is about or is this a dead end? If it really is the point, do those same acts (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) But isn't there a huge distinction here? Say, for instance, I said the following in the .storage group: "I was digging through my big bin of bricks last night, but the noise was really annoying my SO, because she was trying to sleep. I really (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Interesting that you don't bother to address either of the two major points in my post, Lee (that heterosexuals frequently broadcast their sexual orientation by referring to the gender of their partners, and that sexual orientation is about (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Not picking on you particularly Jojo, since this has been said several times by several people in different ways in this thread. There are a couple of points here. Firstly, heterosexuals frequently mention their sexual orientation. How? By (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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