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Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
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Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:38:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.general, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.general, Jeff Pelletier wrote:

   This may be a surprise to you, but you don’t have to have sex to be gay. That distinction really needs to be made.

That does surprise me. Now I’m curious-- what does made someone gay? Merely the fact that they are attracted to the same sex?

Let’s turn the tables on that question. What makes someone hetero? Merely the fact that they are attracted to the opposite sex?

Hmmm. Can we do that? You are implying that the two are equal and interchangable things. It seems to me that being heterosexual is the default, and then something happens (socialization, etc), and some become gay. There is a great deal of resistance in the scientific community to point to a “gay gene” as far as I’m aware, so it can’t be inborn entirely. So that would seem to point to the conclusion that being gay is a choice, and for many, it is. But many gays never consciously make the choice to be gay. So probably some are born with certain proclivities towards being gay and, given the correct formula of socialization, end up gay. Or some other explanation entirely; I don’t really know.

What I’m pretty sure is that homosexuality is not normal-- that is, normative. It is the exception, and not on par with heterosexuality, as suggested by some. I don’t say this to be mean, merely as an observation of the GP.

JOHN



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  Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
 
(...) "Normative: That which is not perceived or experienced by members of a society as odd, peculiar, outlandish, or even as deserving of unusual attention, because either: (a) it is culturally typical, conventional, and encountered commonly in the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
 
(...) That's pretty much proven by evolution, if nothing else. Heterosexual pairings can produce offspring, but homosexual ones can't, therefore the heterosexual lifestyle is self-propogating and the homosexual one isn't. (...) Survival of the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
 
(...) Yes I am and yes they are for the basis of this dicussion. Both involve sexual attraction the only difference being whether or not this attraction is directed towards the same or opposite sex. I think the direct comparison is obvious. -Orion (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
 
(...) Let's turn the tables on that question. What makes someone hetero? Merely the fact that they are attracted to the opposite sex? If the answer is no to the above questions does that mean that virgins are neither homosexual or heterosexual but (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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