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Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > Google for "Metrosexual". Not "swishy", but perhaps hitting some of the
> > stereotypes (well groomed, fit and trim, with it trendwise, fashionably dressed,
> > etc...) that people have (c.f. _Queer Eye for the Straight Guy_ which clearly
> > (seems to, I've only seen it once) plays on/with those stereotypes).
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> Ok, got it. I had come across that term before but didn't class it as "buying
> into the gay lifestyle". For one thing, that particular group of behaviours
> (well groomed, fit and trim, with it trendwise, fashionably dressed etc) plays
> off only one of the several gay stereotypes, never mind the fact that there are
> many more "gay lifestyles" out there than the stereotypes cover. Goodness knows
> where the people on the Gay Homesteaders mailing list I belong to would fit!
Yeah, the few gay men that I've been pretty close friends with were all "bears"
if I understand the terminology -- not at all swishy.
I assumed John meant something like this: I'm straight. I decide to have e.g.
anal sex with a man. Now, in John's book, I'm gay. What made that happen?
As I actually see it, I _could_ have anal sex with a man and not be gay. In my
specific case, I'd just be trying something out. When I'm in public, I look
(appreciatively) at women, not men -- that's much more a sign of sexual
orientation than whom you might choose to occasionally have sex with. I think
the person in John's scenario/question doesn't actually exist.
Chris
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| (...) Ok, got it. I had come across that term before but didn't class it as "buying into the gay lifestyle". For one thing, that particular group of behaviours (well groomed, fit and trim, with it trendwise, fashionably dressed etc) plays off only (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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