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Re: New poll: sexuality and Lugnet
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Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:24:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Jeff Pelletier wrote:
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This may be a surprise to you, but you dont have to have sex to be gay.
That distinction really needs to be made.
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That does surprise me. Now Im curious-- what does made someone gay?
Merely the fact that they are attracted to the same sex?
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Lets turn the tables on that question. What makes someone hetero? Merely
the fact that they are attracted to the opposite sex?
If the answer is no to the above questions does that mean that virgins are
neither homosexual or heterosexual but stuck in some asexual limbo?
-Orion
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John asked a simple question which I think is a common misconception. It can be
summed up with a few definitions which should help clarify (and these
definitions are scholarly, you can disagree with them if you wish - Im just
putting out there what I have learned)
sexual orientation - something inborn and something which cannot change. This
has no relationship to actual behavior. sexual identity - what someone
identifies with to other people. I could call myself straight but actually have
my orientation be gay but not be ready to deal with it. Many bisexual women
identify as Lesbians for political reasons and many straight men and women
identify as such but are actually bisexual by orientation.
Any sexual behavior or acts fall under the identity category, not orientation.
Hope that clears it up a little bit. Its a (very) confusing subject.
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| (...) This is a question for anyone who has an educated opinion...I seriously don't know. Why does it seem relatively more common for women to be openly bi than men? I know lots of bi women, relatively few bi men, and more gay men than lesbians. Is (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Let's turn the tables on that question. What makes someone hetero? Merely the fact that they are attracted to the opposite sex? If the answer is no to the above questions does that mean that virgins are neither homosexual or heterosexual but (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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