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Re: Lavender Brick Society
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Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:00:43 GMT
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"Jeff Pelletier" <jeff@studio7733.com> wrote in message
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Joakim Olsson wrote:
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> > Hi, this is a good post, but there is something I do not understand with • it:
> > You wrote: "where I would not feel comfortable sharing any LGBT related • MOCS
> > in a general forum"
> >
> > I have to ask: Why the heck not? What is a LGBT related MOC? How would • it
> > look like? I simply cannot understand how a MOC can represent a persons
> > sexual preference without depicting actual sexual stuff? Sexual stuff • does
> > not (What I know off) belong on Lugnet.
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> Joakim,
> No problem asking. Several examples of LGBT related MOCs were already • brought
> up, but to recap: there was a castle inhabited by lesbians, a gay bar, a • gay
> "ghetto" (most big cities have one - NYC's Chelsea, Seattle's Capitol • Hill,
> etc.), and in general any story driven MOC which is character based (for
> instance, all of my MOCs are based in "The New Omicron Republic" and there • is a
> whole story behind all of the ships and buildings and what not. Some of • the
> people inhabiting this little world are gay (which would be described in • the
> descriptions of the scenarios or what not as probably the only visible • clue
> would be the one bed two same sex people thing).
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> I've found that a lot of people tend to think that gay = sexual stuff.
> Obviously the difference between straight people and non straight people • is the
> difference in attraction to genders. But believe it or not, there are a • large
> amount of subtle differences that have absolutely NOTHING to do with sex. • As a
> gay person, I am just as disturbed as I am sure you are at children seeing
> sexual images; its just not appropriate. Just because someone is gay does • not
> mean they have lost common sense (and I am not saying that you think • anything I
> said above, I'm just trying to clarify my point)
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> > Not everyone is building stuff to decorate wedding cakes with. (And this • is
> > the only MOC I can think of)
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> > Or is a need to discuss private matters regarding personal life with • others
> > that are in the same situation?
> > My personal view is that I keep that kind of personal stuff by myself, • or in
> > other related forums. But that is my personal view, and probably not • shared
> > by others.
>
> A short answer is yes; it is a need to discuss private matters regarding
> personal life. Mind you, this is probably a hard issue to quantify as • most
> straight people (from what I have seen and there are exceptions) do not • have to
> think twice about mentioning casually "their wife/husband", or perhaps • where
> they got the idea for a MOC (for instance, I may not feel comfortable • saying, "I
> was in New Orleans at Mardi Gras and saw this great gay bar and decided to • build
> it" - I might censor what I say and just say that I saw a bar in New • Orleans and
> then omit any gay references (rainbow flags, same sex couples). Sublte
> differences but they would be two different MOCs and, I think, one • wouldn't be
> as cool as it wouldn't be as accurate a description of something.
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> I would challenge anyone to read all of their past posts and not find one
> reference to something which clues you in as straight (if you are). Thats • my
> only real point about wanting to share personal stuff. Otherwise, I have • no
> desire to tell you more about my life than that which effects what I • build.
> >
> > Excuse me if I have missed something, but I had to ask.
> > Be well! And play on!
> > /Joakim
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> And Joakim, thanks for asking some intelligent questions. Thats what this
> thread should be about.
Thank you for clearing that up. Here is my comments on your answers:
I (generally) do not think MOC´s from your own examples above, is
"forbidden" to show in the groups allready created.
A good MOC is a good MOC, whatever in may contain. I really do not care if
the builder is gay or not.
We had some controversy earlier about someone building MOC´s with
Nazi-content. Does that make the builder a Nazi-person?
And about that "censor-thing".
I mean.. if you censor yourself arent you only doing it to "hide" that you
are gay? But how does that compute with having a group were you do not
censor yourself? People can read the group anyway, so what is the point?
*scratching my head, maybe my beer is having effect =)*
Would this group only be for gay people, or for "all" people that built a
MOC containing non-hetero environments?
Regards
/J
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| (...) You are completely right about MOCs being able to be posted in other groups. I intend, where appropriate, to cross-post any MOCs that I would post. Some people may not, its their choice I guess. (...) The short answer (and thats difficult) (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Joakim, No problem asking. Several examples of LGBT related MOCs were already brought up, but to recap: there was a castle inhabited by lesbians, a gay bar, a gay "ghetto" (most big cities have one - NYC's Chelsea, Seattle's Capitol Hill, (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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