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(...) After they've been brainwashed since they first could understand words, you mean, by being forced to attend church up til then? We chose not to do that to our children. They can decide for themselves once they're old enough but for now we are (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More on this topic... a class action suit is in the works in DC (URL) the following is first in a series on these noxious devices (from last year): (URL) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course kids need an education or society would be generally uncultured, but I really don't think someone...oh say, ten years in age, should possess the legal right to deny to go to church, or for that fact, any legitimate social situation. (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Francis Fukayama argues that now is the time to close our Saudi bases: (URL) thesis includes the notion that doing so now would not be perceived as a retreat, unlike if we wait a while, when there will be more unrest. Coupled with the currently (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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First off, I'm joining in here because I agree with part of Terry's opinion. I'm not speaking for him, I just hate it when this kinda thing happens. I don't know him and am speaking only in regards to this particular topic. Now then... (...) I think (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wait a moment here...with the logic you're advocating you claim: Parents shouldn't drag their children into situations they may not be competent to decide for themselves. With such logic, you can also bring this argument to say that kids (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was, in fact asking this question because I don't approve of children being dragged to church by their parents. Religion (or absemce of) should be a decision that we make alone, without the parental influence. We all know that people believe (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just something I happened to stumble across... a part of TrainWeb I hadn't seen before. That site is an amazing resource for train related stuff. GM's campaign (or conspiracy if you like) against mass transit: (URL) specifically (URL) trolleys are (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and non-existent to the radical Christians, which there seem to be more and more of every day. Go ahead, try to sweep your own people under the rug, but you can't deny there are quite a number of absolute NUTCASES that swing some decent (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think I like where Dave! is going with this stuff -- and again, this liberal stance doesn't respect parties: w oppose corruption, cronyism, and stupidity in matters domestic and foreign irrespective of which party is involved. Right now, we are (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, you judge your own values better to others. Muslims would also have great arguments to debate with you, I suppose. That's not the point. We can't kill others. It's a human right to be alive, to have our life preserved and protected. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Should it react at all? Are we in trouble? If so, exactly what kind of trouble? (...) Read some paragraphs above: you stated *clearly* that you were referring to Arabs, as you supposed that the author was too. (...) Of course not. You won't (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right there, I can tell you exactly why you are mistaking. Oussama Bin Laden attacked USA because of USA's foreign affairs. Your country gets involved in almost every political tension in the world, even when USA has nothing to do with it and (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Careful--in principle, God's nonexistence can be proven simply by demonstrating a logical contradiction in his essential nature. Of course, the faithful are generally willing to accept any number of logical contradictions in order to preserve (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol Absolutely nothing-- it's not really my problem! I just found the statistics interesting and am just wondering how *Europe* will react. (...) Again, I don't want to speak about *Arabs*, unless we are talking about those Arabs who are (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Really, you are the biggest bore. I have never suggested conspiracy -- ever! I have suggested favors in exchange for favors, which you seem ready to admit as a fact of political life. So wonderful, we agree. I hope you don't mind my pointing out who (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So doesn't that make your own distinction between "Muslim" and "Arab" a bit shakier? You claimed to be referring to Muslims, and that Arab was a race-related term. (...) (and exactly what do you propose to do about it???) Don't you think it's (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What you are asking for is akin to me asking you to prove that God doesn't exist. The facts that you are providing are not causal, but more like coincidental, and certainly not evidence of conspiratorial. Bechtel got some contracts. Fine. And (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To answer your question above, I was referring, as I believe the author of the article was as well, to Arab immigration and their direct descendants post WWII. When I said "dominated", I meant in the context of numbers. The Muslim population (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) About 20% strong. The number comes from the percentage Mr. Le Pen had in the last presidential election. (...) (To John: a significant number of Muslims has lived in Europe for centuries, notably in the Balkans. They are not Arabs, and they (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps, but you have yet to counter many of my claims with anything like a fact or anything like authority. Like I said, I need more than lame right-wing excuses or justifications out of some moldy old book. Show me with the use of facts how (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You seem to be saying we can't judge other cultures. Can we judge people? Can we judge groups of people? How many people have to follow the same idea before we can't judge it? I would point out that many wrongdoers in the world believe that (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: I promised in a earlier post I wouldn't call you names again, so I won't tell you what I think of you, but yes, by all mean, shut up. You attacks against some cultures here are most unwelcome. Terry (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Richard! You just stole me my title! ;-) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most like USA's death penalty. Who are we to decide what is right or wrong? This is called a cultural clash. In the Muslim culture, Adultery may be one of the worst thing a person can do in his/her life. If so, it would be logical for this (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if the belief system itself is flawed? As I understand it, to be a good muslim, one has to follow sharia (religious law). Sharia is used as civil law in many countries and in many others, it's being pushed as something that SHOULD be used (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm seeing that the term "Enlightenment" was probably too loaded a word for the idea I wished to convey. What I meant by it was an intellectual passing into the 20th Century. By most accounts I have read, it is generally agreed that Islam is (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, say we compared it to the percentage of extremist Christians for example. I don't know what that number is, but judging from reported Christian terrorist attacks I'd say that it is pretty low. Even if the percentage of extremist Muslims (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) France has long had a difficult relationship with Arab countries due to its colonialism in North Africa (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia come to mind). That reverse migration has happened only seems appropriate: the link worked both ways. There has (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It might be useful to have a clear, legitimate tally of extremists relative to the whole sample population. We can't use the US media or Arab-state-run media, since both of these sources are tainted. There are over a billion Muslims in the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you. But really, I haven't a problem with Islam per se. There are many peaceful Muslims. What I *do* have a problem with are extremist Muslims who tend to comprise a shockingly high percentage of the Muslim population, and the seemingly (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All right. Why don't we use the term "bigot" then? (...) If you're going to use the term "enlightenment" as litmus test to determine whether a group is worthy of respect, then you need to throw out groups that work to foster pseudoscience in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, I thought that they were silently disagreeing with me. But so what if they do? You don't seem to care about what others think of your views. Are you suggesting that I keep quiet because the majority happen to think differently than I do? (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, let's put away the racist card already. Islam is a *religion*. Followers of Islam are *Muslims*. "Arab" is a race term, not "Muslim", okay? (...) Sorry I wasn't clear in my meaning: "Enlightenment" A philosophical movement of the 18th (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pot, kettle. You are probably the most uncivil individual in this NG. JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah! There it is! The proven fact that you are a racist. What? You think your religion is enlightened? Can you tell us which religions have passed the JohnNeal test of Enlightenment? Please, show the world the greatness of your prejudices! (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And it looks like British Parliament agrees with me... ---...--- "Prove Iraqi guilt, MPs tell Blair" (URL) by the turn of the year there is no WMD then the basis on which this was executed was illegal," he said. MPs are also starting to ask (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who are you to tell me this? I'm only telling one stupid person that posts racist and hateful stuff here on Lugnet that what he posts is stupid. If you endore his attitude, if you endorse what he says, it should be you who should be warned (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, the bitterness didn't escape me. And I never claimed to ascribe to his view-- I just, as I said in my one word review, found it "interesting". How many feel the same as he? Is it a growing sentiment? I have no idea. I frankly didn't even (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In countless ways you have lost this right, Lar. You rarely listen to anything anyone else may have to say about anything. And that fact has been amply shown in this forum. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh? He is not? I suppose you are smarter than him? Because, as far as I know, Mr. Robbins is a respected person in Holywood precisely because he is a very intelligent and smart person. If you can threat people because of what they say, then (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll repeat, I suggest you stop baiting people. If you (and others, some of whom have already been warned about it, and recently, too) continue to do so, you continue to make off-topic.debate a much less pleasant place. And that's as much "my (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And they do. Don't you realize that MANY people are against your point of views? Don't you get the fact that your hatred and racism is not approved by most of people here? The only person I recall insulting in my whole Lugnet life is you. You (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So? Even if Europe was to become 90% Muslim, what would it change? You state an article that prones violence and racism against a country, someone asks why, you say it's because there are a lot of Muslims... This would be called racism by most (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me re-phrase that... I consider Canada as our political adversaries, so I tend to agree with anything that gives an advantage to Québec Over Canada. I don't wish bad stuff will happen to Canada, as one could have understand from the first (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Try harder. You speak for fewer than you suppose. Besides, they can speak for themselves. JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, mind your own business, will you? Taking a sentence out of context as you just did is exactly what I'm talking about when I condemn extremist right-wing propaganda. The simple fact that John submitted this article to us implies that he (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In the context that the Muslim population is growing in Europe, it might be interesting, but the article you quote is absolutely venomous about it. Since you make no mention of it even after me refering to the article as "drivel" and "trash", (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, John, I couldn't care less about your opinions. I don't seek any facts from people like you. You have prove many times that you believe certain things and I, like many others, think you are not very brilliant. So I don't care what you (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, the true colors show at last. What media does a voice of dissent have access to when people are worried about how to feed themselves when the likes of Clear Channel and Fox control what they may say? You're saying it's okay for people to (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Precisely. Well said, Scott. But Mr. Robbins isn't a deep enough thinker to understand what you (and others) are telling him. He'd rather just whine about how now everyone is out to get him. I don't see HIM standing up to defend the rights of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're not doing much for your own stature with comments like that. I suggest you stop baiting people. (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Spot on, Scott. This is why Mr. Robbins should stick to acting rather than pretending to be a deep, political commentator and victim, because he doesn't know what he is talking about. He thinks his First Amendment rights are being violated (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What I found most interesting about it is his addressing the issue of the growing Muslim population of Europe, especially in France. In that context, it is understandable to see the growing rift between countries like France and the US, and in (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't you have friends, John? Are you a conspiracy of people? ---...--- "Cronies Set to Make a Killing" (URL) Halliburton and the Spoils of War" (URL) Close Ties to Brown and Root" (URL) Makes a Killing on Iraq War" (URL) next you post perhaps (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't say how Bechtel is in league with anyone in particular, but my father, ardent Republican and worker on WoMD (Titan II Underground Missle launch complex - I believe that door that slides open in nothing flat as the missle is actually (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How does posting constructive criticism here get back to the writer of that trash? If you wish to quote or paraphrase the parts you think are salient or you agree with (or disagree with), I can have a discussion about that with you, but (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's the thing, Terry. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and to express it. I merely questioned the wisdom of your public criticism of something you hadn't fully investigated, or to call something patently stupid without any attempt (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What a whiner, I fully agree that death threats and attacks on his children are uncalled for, but freedom of speach is not free. You are free to say whatever you like, but you are not free from the consequences of your words. When Mr. Robbins (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John johm john... When will you realize that the ridicule here is you ? Why should we read the whole article to realize it's stupid altogether? You are ignorant. Terry (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The latest winner, (...) Hold on there, conspiracy boy-- I thought Bush et al was in bed with Halliburton. Perhaps it is a really BIG bed... But wait, Bechtel isn't the BIGGEST contributor, what gives? (...) What exactly does that mean? (...) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm guessing that the US are simply using their miltary presence in the ME for what it's worth: To put pressure on other countries, whose policy they would like to see changed. BTW, I heard on BBC World Service recently that Rumsfeld was asked (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Leave off one tiny "m" and it changes the whole meaning of the subject line. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Bechtel wins giant Iraq contract" (URL) open competitive bidding, the Bush administration has allowed few corporations to submit proposals for rebuilding Iraq. The latest winner, awarded $680 million to rehab power, water and sewage systems, is (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Countering a Wave of Hate" (URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So, you offer ridicule in lieu of constructive criticism? (...) Well, that certainly is his perogative, but then his commenting on it seems particularily ignorant. Reminds me of a line from a Steve Martin song..."Criticize things you don't (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Something very disturbing is growing and gaining support since the beginning of the Iraqi crisis in USA. This, in my opinion, is more threatening than any dictator. It's called blind-nationalism. In 1970, the FLQ (Front de Lebération du Québec), (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had to roll down the window to let out the stink from this one. Were you offering it as humor? Terry was right not to read the whole thing - I gotta take a shower just to clean it off (and I find France pompously self-righteous). -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was reported by you, though. And as for Milliere, you can't be surprised to find at least one stupid person coming from a big counrtry like France to be an ignorant right-extremist... BTW, I read that article only in part. It's too dumb, I (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You should read more carefully, Terry. The article was written by Guy Milliere, a *Frenchman*, not me. JOHN (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Another piece of trash coming form the infamous John Neal... Not surprising... (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Maggie Cambron writes: <snip> (...) Well, I taped the West Wing, bought DiabloII Expansion (minions of hell watch out!) and I have loads of Voortman cookies in the desk drawer... Let the good times roll... Dave -who will, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (Yes, I know, I have a nice amount of time on my hands :) <<_Matt Hein_>> Fellow lego enthusiast O s p r e y (URL) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As a former journeyman electrician I can tell you they get laid off too (actually I was a shipyard electrician so, unlike the outside electricians my job was relatively secure-- that is until they closed the shipyard...) (...) Yeah, and get (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Interesting: (URL) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) have to point out that of all the posters to this thread that responded to my original post or any other, you came the closest to actually addressing what was being said. What the article was addressing was not how much tax ought to be paid, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) have to point out that of all the posters to this thread that responded to my original post, you came the closest to actually addressing what was being said. What the article was addressing was not how much tax ought to be paid, nor how much (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [1]. it may pay good, but the problem with jobs like these are lack of benefits. my father-in-law easily makes much more than i (he's a house painter), but i'll be able to retire when i'm 60 with almost a million coming from my retirement (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So there's this time at Oktoberfest--I'm always the DD (cause I don't drink alcohol...) and I have 5 passed out people in my little tiny Accord sedan... Leaving Kitchener on hwy 8--the police put a RIDE program right there (surprise, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fool! Get yourself a job a plasterer; the amount I’ve just paid for 2 days work from a guy who probably left school at 15 has left me in “shock & awe” [1]. (...) ...all that without a beer; have you given it up for lent? Scott A [1] I almost (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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See: US firm cashes in on 'Comical Ali' (URL) "Iraqi Dis-Information Minister" doll can be had for $24.95, or for an extra $11, there is a talking version that parrots phrases such as "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!" and "Our (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm in IT--some large company pays me to play on systems all day. But if, say, tomorrow I were to get laid off, what would I do? There are more qualified persons out there than myself in the IT field. Eh, I'd go back to floor (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ==+== Professor Brian Spratt, chairman of the Royal Society working group on depleted uranium, said that a recent study by the society had found that the majority of soldiers were unlikely to be exposed to dangerous levels of depleted uranium (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is pretty much my feeling too. Scott A (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] (...) Maybe, but the reply you came back with was just rude. You can say you are just living in the real world or whatever - but even with that it is just rude. Perhaps you have heard of the saying 'If you do not have anything nice to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you. The above states my position pretty well, except I would add ", nor REQUIRED" to the last sentence. (...) Yes and no. Sometimes a negative post will get someone to think about what will happen in a similar situation in the future. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh no, I don't consider it a constant pain in the way you are probably thinking. I think the Meaning of Life is to enjoy yourself as much as possible without hurting others (unless they like it <g>). But Daily Life IS constant pain. I'm not (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I make my website for me. If folks don't like it, well, they don't have to surf to it. I also post here in LUGNET--again, in a newsgroup such as this, why get your knickers in a knot over what other folks say? Praise is nice but unnecessary. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am all for "keeping it real" in the sense that I don't care much for 'sugar coating' things, and I can get annoyed if I feel someone is always 'sugar coating' what they share with me (this happens a lot where I work actually). But at the (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Note the FUT, I don't think this belongs in .general anymore... (...) There's nothing wrong with wanting replies. But if you EXPECT them, and complain if you don't get them, the problem is not everyone else, the problem is you. If you need (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Although income tax is comparable with your own [when NI is included], in the UK we are taxed at 40% of GDP. But the difference is cultural too; we don't mind paying tax if we get good public services in return... we want education and health (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) paying about 30-40% of your *income* right now[?]. Who decides what "necessities" are? Are stocks and shares "necessities"? Clothing? Books? A haircut? Anything other than a “trailer” for a home? Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Guys The US tax system may be more complex than many other countries (I have no idea if this is true) but the rate of taxation is low compared to other industrialized nations. I'm a middle class taxpayer and I estimate my total fedral, state and (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sad thing is it doesn't have to be that way: (URL) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Seeing how this is tax day in the US (but not tax freedom day, that comes quite a bit later in the year), this topic seems fitting... The subject quote is from this article (URL) may have the most complicated tax plan in the world... (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why am I reminded of the nursury rhyme "Henny Penny" I will not help you plant the wheat, harvest the wheat, ground the wheat, make the dough, or cook the bread, but I am very willing to help you eat the bread. How is this for helping Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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