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Re: "France is not a Western Country anymore"
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Sat, 19 Apr 2003 16:34:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

I'll admit to not having a great deal of digging on this topic, but when I
did some superficial searches, I found things like stoning to death for
adultery, 100 lashes for fornication, cutting off hands for theft, testimony
of women or infidels counts only for 1/2 the testimony of male muslims, and
other features that suggest that it may not be a very just system of law.

Most like USA's death penalty.  Who are we to decide what is right or wrong?
This is called a cultural clash.  In the Muslim culture, Adultery may be one
of the worst thing a person can do in his/her life.  If so, it would be
logical for this person to be executed.  Just as USA executes people who do
certain crimes because these crimes are considered awful.  By not judging on
the crimes themselves because they reflect our values, which are certainly
different from other cultures' values, but by trying to understand the logic
behind the culture, then we see that Muslims and Christians have 99% of
their value system in common.  But of course, people only see the
differences, which are, at first glance, striking, but in fact, they're
almost exactly the same.

I have made it very clear in the past that I am not a believer in any
religion.  I've studied them, though, only to realize, in my own point of
view, that all religions are based on the same values and needs of security
and peace.  That's why you and everyone else here who is part of any
religion cannot rightfully judge Islam, Christianism or any religion.  All
believers have this feeling that they have the right faith and that others
are wrong.  The feeling can lead to either misunderstanding the other
religion, either hatred and prejudices.  As for me, I'll also admit that I
cannot rightfully judge any religion because I think they're all kid stories
from thousands of years ago that got transformed over time into big belief
systems.  But I am not saying that they are wrong or right, I'm just saying
that I think they have the same credibility as the Greek Mythology, the
Toothfairy and Santa.

That's why I cannot withstand that someone will blatantly attack Muslims by
calling them a danger to world peace.  In my opinion, from where I stand,
all religions are a threat to world peace.

I've never heard of an Atheist starting a war to wipe out other people's
beliefs...  That's sadly what some of you are wishing the US will do with
Islam...

Terry



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  Re: "France is not a Western Country anymore"
 
(...) You seem to be saying we can't judge other cultures. Can we judge people? Can we judge groups of people? How many people have to follow the same idea before we can't judge it? I would point out that many wrongdoers in the world believe that (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: "France is not a Western Country anymore"
 
(...) What if the belief system itself is flawed? As I understand it, to be a good muslim, one has to follow sharia (religious law). Sharia is used as civil law in many countries and in many others, it's being pushed as something that SHOULD be used (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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