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Re: "France is not a Western Country anymore"
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Sat, 19 Apr 2003 04:22:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > That as Europe becomes more and more influenced politically by Muslims, the
> > > rift between the US and Europe will only widen. The day is coming when >modern,
> > > secular European nations are going to find themselves dominated by indigenous
> > > Muslims who follow a religion that has yet to pass through enlightenment.
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> > Ah! There it is! The proven fact that you are a racist.
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> Okay, let's put away the racist card already. Islam is a *religion*.
> Followers of Islam are *Muslims*. "Arab" is a race term, not "Muslim", okay?
All right. Why don't we use the term "bigot" then?
> "Enlightenment" A philosophical movement of the 18th century that emphasized
> the use of reason to scrutinize previously accepted doctrines and traditions
> and that brought about many humanitarian reforms.
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> I meant it in a historical context.
If you're going to use the term "enlightenment" as litmus test to determine
whether a group is worthy of respect, then you need to throw out groups that
work to foster pseudoscience in education or which try do eliminate the
division between church and state--both of these are contrary to
post-enlightenment thinking but are rampant among certain groups here in the US.
Dave!
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| (...) Thank you. But really, I haven't a problem with Islam per se. There are many peaceful Muslims. What I *do* have a problem with are extremist Muslims who tend to comprise a shockingly high percentage of the Muslim population, and the seemingly (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Okay, let's put away the racist card already. Islam is a *religion*. Followers of Islam are *Muslims*. "Arab" is a race term, not "Muslim", okay? (...) Sorry I wasn't clear in my meaning: "Enlightenment" A philosophical movement of the 18th (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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