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(...) Heh. FUT .off-topic.fun, because it's fun, and that's not debateable. :) (...) I think you leapt to a conclusion. :) But I'll give the answers anyway:(1) My belt is a kidney belt, made of 5 inch wide 16 ounce leather, backed with plastic (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Would you two just take it offline and shut the hell up? How many times are people going to have to tell you that your endless sniping at each other is the most annoying thing in this group before you shut up, play nice, and ignore each other? (...) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) O.K. sooooo I know that this if off-topic even for this off-topic thread… But I really wanna know James! What is your Belt: Who’s your teacher: What’s the name of your club: Have you been to any competition: What discipline of Martial Arts do (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, you're right. My imprecision. What I meant was: "We are saying that morals do not apply to it." Mea culpa, mea culpa. James (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, no, by the definitions you gave (and my understanding also) amoral does not specifically relate to _our_ (human) morals, but _any_ morals. (...) ROSCO (Never let it be said that *I* let this thread die!) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Any film as a *true* representation of life? No. *A* representation of acts in real life interpreted by the director, producer, actors, etc.? Yes. (...) He never stated that films were an objective account of life, nor did I mean to imply that (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Was that a question? In other words, are you asking *us* if *you* see it that way? How should we know what you think, if you don't know yourself? But let's assume it's a statement, since it's more likely that you're just challenged about when (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Something in the water where I work makes about 9 out of 10 people refer to something that is no longer relevant as a "mute point," but I'm usually silent on such matters. Dave! (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is it a moot point? (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Around here, police officers have the option of carrying mace and/or pepper spray as a weapon, but if they choose to exercise that option, they must be willing to undergo the effects - in other words, they voluntarily get maced. James (who (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't want to make light of your experience (alright... I do, but it's only meant in jest), but isn't it usually the other way around? :-) (...) The macing was unfortunately an assault by a gang of kids at a pool hall one night. I should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I see your crow-bar and raise you a gun (no I didn't get shot, but I did have a gas station attendant pull a gun on me (see (URL) and it's followups if you want to see the details). (...) I've never been maced thankfully, but having a gun (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't typically come down in complete agreement with Scott, but I must concur with him on this point. Does anyone of full mental capacity actually think that any film is a true representation of life? The entire process, from the formulation (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Does it have the capacity of a standard M1911A1? Where is it smaller -- barrel, mag, or width? Got URL? Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave Low wrote in message ... (...) of the (...) obvious (...) Indeed, and the gradient is not only mental/psychological but physical: there are an amazing number of medical conditions which fall outside traditionally physically male and (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pornography is just a graphical depiction of sex. Sex happens in real life. Violence happens in real life to varying degrees. Get threatened with a crow-bar, or get maced sometime. I feel that both are pretty violent and they have both (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me back-track for a minute. I think I started down a different path than we were originally on. I think the government should reduce it's size period. It doesn't need to be as large as it is. Too much red tape already. That said, let's (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is *exactly* what we are doing when we say the lion is amoral. We are saying that our morals do not apply to it. That's where the breakdown in communication is happening. You appear to be operating with a different definition of "amoral" (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think he was referring to your efforts to veer the debate in an attempt to make First Amendment = Child Pornography. Granted, there's room for a .debate there, but that's not the crux of the matter (nor, technically, is it a problem with the (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Irony (...) So the money should be spent regulating itself getting smaller? (...) We do not live there. How would you solve the problems in this world? (...) Is this the best you can do? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Dave spotted it too: (URL) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very interesting. I will have to read more about it and see how the story developes. I hadn't heard of the technique before, so I can't argue any points about it yet :-) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This, for some reason reminded me of this: (URL) para: "In a country where 40m people have no health insurance, the Bush administration is planning to offer publicly funded medical coverage to foetuses, in a move which pro-choice activists (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Talk about up-to-the-minute. See these topics: (URL) I didn't want to weigh down this basically light-hearted discussion, but you (...) I agree (about being a drag etc). Still, I thought .debate was a good place for discussion of Adam's rib (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then I'm assuming that you've never had sex, or been in a fist-fight. (...) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Although not everyone has to. (...) How so? (...) By reducing itself (fat chance). (...) I said "idealistic world". (...) That's what education is for. (...) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One would expect not anyway: (URL) A (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not think I have metioned child in this thread... but you are correct, I do not understand it. Do you support child pornography? What about child prositution? (...) Is this the best you can do? (...) Ah. It is my fault. I see. I should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not any more: (URL) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we should not compare our morals with the lion’s decision making process. (...) i think "judge" is rather strong a word. (...) If they wanted you to - yes. (...) The consequence is that it annoys them. (...) Why do you neet motivation (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I did not see it when I read over the webpage the other day. None the less, I think that telephone surveys are not as good as the real thing. However, this is a moot point. (...) Hardly typical. Even if it was, it appears that I am not (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) "realities of life"? You think violence in movies and pornography represent the "realities of life"? It looks like my life is duller than I thought. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I did not see it when I read over the webpage the other day. None the less, I think that telephone surveys are not as good as the real thing. However, this is a moot point. (...) Hardly typical. Even if it was, it appears that I am not (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) So you think there is enough charity money out there for everyone to go cap-in-hand for a hand out? (...) Controversial (...) You said this before. I asked you where the money should be spent - I think you replied saying the government should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Snatching Duplo pieces directly from the clutches of little children is a poor idea because it gives them the idea that it is okay to grab pieces they need from the creations of others whenever they want (believe me, you'll be sorry later on (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | Separation of Church and State?
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(...) How about: (URL) you want your tax dollars going to a religious organization? -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Sterilization and sticking to the same gender (girls typically don't get girls pregnant, nor do boys typically get boys pregnant). (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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(...) (sic) (...) Loss of first amendment rights (while the populace cheers on the loss) in the US *is* a real issue, whether you like it or not. In fact, whether you *understand* it or not, actually, since you have demonstrated with your slurring (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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(...) Selçuk (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) There was a good program on the telly in the UK fairly recently where they had a teenager looking after a child on their own full time, with the real parents of the child supervising from hidden cameras and so on. They did this with several (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) section) is all the info I have. Seems like your fairly standard telephone survey, and they are not claiming huge accuracy, just the fairly typical (for this sample size) 95 confidence +/- 3% (for the entire group) results. Since this is (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Couldn't resist
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(...) I was hoping to avoid that quagmire, but you're correct. Your post crystalizes the difference between "sex" and "gender," which are distinct characteristics not to be interchanged. Gender, in the modern usage, describes the *relative* (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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I would put vasectomoy/hysterectomy within the sterility umbrella (even though sterility is often not CHOSEN, and V/H can be). There are other ways... (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Sterility and vasectomy/hysterectomy? (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Not quite true. Think about it a bit, it will come to you - there are at least 2 other ways... (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hey tanya ~ i'd say hardly. unless.... you _literally_ snatched the double-sized duplo from their tiny fingers and then ignored their pitiful wailing while you were lost in a building frenzy... well gee, that would be all kinds of wrong. but (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped some stuff> (...) What was that line of Chris Farley's in "Tommy Boy": You can stick your head up a cows ass to look for a good steak or just trust the butcher... something like that. ;^) I hear ya, Kirby. Dan (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GG8CI6.IJr@lugnet.com... (...) little mousy (...) that's just (...) the head as (...) Kimber 1911. More kaboom, smaller package. -- Overkill is the only sure kill. SR (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not to push the point, I'd say there _is_ a gradient between "female" and "male". As always, the exceptional cases demonstrate the fluid boundaries of the majority. Take homosexuals, transexuals and hermaphrodites. Or heterosexual nancy-boys (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) I don't know of any large developed nation with a predominantly private secondary education system. I can think of one that has a predominantly private health care system though, which might be analogous as a basic and essential service (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wellll....ok. *pat* *pat* :-, But this kinda gives me the entry I need: Beretta 92 FS or 1911A1-alike? Increased capacity or increased kaboom? Ease of cleaning or the "classic" look? Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay, here goes - Is it totally immoral/unethical to snatch Duplos from your own children in order to bulk up the landscapes of your castles? :) ~~Tanya (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Quote from the site mentioned above: "Good ... and of course, no one claims they did. Thousands of pictures were taken on the Moon, and the ones you see will tend to be the good ones. If Buzz Aldrin accidentally cut off Neil Armstrong's head, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops, that's my fault for watching channel 5, I should have known better, there renown for pumping out rubbish (rubbish made in America). Well, I've read the site and my faith in the Moon landing's has been restored. Steve (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snippage> (...) "Documentary" indeed. :^P ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're apparently in the minority. When watching the show, I was able to (through my own knowledge) discount all the alleged "mistakes" they made except for: 1. the Van Allen radiation belts 2. the overlaid photography from different sites 3. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Haven't you seen that documentary? The one that shows all the errors made when they faked the landing. It was so faked. I'm surprised I'm not more bothered. The video's show the flags flapping with the wind (there's supposadly an outdoor (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) I don't know either. I'm just going on my own knowledge, experiences and perceptions. I feel that a privatized system is better than the alternative public system that we have now. Besides, why do we have banned books? Shouldn't we read that (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Ask for assistance from a charity. There are plenty of grants and scholarships available for primary & secondary education. Just like post-secondary. You just need to look for it. I'm all for educating children, but I don't agree with the way (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I have asked it already, and yes, you've tried to answer it-- however, I either did not understand your response, or I find you to be in error for ever disagreeing with Larry about the issue. So, either please clarify by answering the (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) I ask this as a flat question, without intentionally hidden rhetoric: Is there another country of comparable size, population, and demographic and financial diversity that has a predominant and demonstrably successful privatized educational (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men
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(...) yup, i think that was him. I looked around some more for my link, but I think i might not have actually saved it. In fact, I might have found it somewhere around Lugnet, but am not sure where to start looking, it has been a couple of months (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Each to his own I suppose. (...) What is you could not afford it? (...) Private industry is just as bad as the government... in my opinion. Look at how wrong the private sector got the dot.coms (...) We are back to where we started - you still (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Are you sure that the child will be corrupted? I would rather that the child be exposed to the realities of life so that it can form its own opinion on what is right/wrong. IF the parents are doing their job, then the child should be (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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(...) Forget hidden meanings. I shall settle for a meaning. ;0 Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) So you would rather that kid was corrupted, than some sort of age check system was used? (...) Such as? Protecting children is what I expect government to do before almost anything. I expect government to supply children with free healthcare (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My statement is exactly what it is. I try not to put hidden meanings behind my words. It keeps life simpler. -Duane (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men
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(...) I've read that quote--I think it was this guy: (URL) this article doesn't show the quote. (...) There was, of course, that awful movie "Wag the Dog." Dave! (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) That's the parent's duty - not mine, or the governments for that matter either. I would rather the government do something useful, not tell me what I can/cannot say, or what my children can/cannot see or hear. If a parent can't keep track of (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon
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heh, I enjoyed watching "capricorn one". I hope no one is taking this thread as direct challenge. Though I am a believer in the moon landings, I understand that it is possible (though unlikely) that I could have been led astray. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would have thought that was evident. Rather than just saying "I agree", I thought your statement had more substance? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not speak American English. ;) (...) I think Larry did that last week did he not? Look here: (URL) you read it, you will see it was actually in a reply to YOU. It is a few messages above this one. Next time, take the time to think before (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Personally, I would think it is bad that any group is "working hard as we speak to ensure US kids can be exposed to porn and violence." - call me a prude if you wish. (...) What if a kid has a parent that does not care - is that OK? What if (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes: <snip> (...) There is link somewhere in my favorites folder that I cannot find at the moment (this folder is dire need of organizing) which offers a cite about a creationist who would not believe a (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am highly appreciative for sites such as this. Often they can explain better thatn myself the differece between scientific fact and personal biased speculation... I took the liberty of reading several articles on that site thoroughly absorbed (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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my post here was emotional I suppose. The thread "is this sexism?" has changed topic several times now and did not seem to be a bother, at least not for me. Then a personal argument sprung up where someone became irritated that the topic had changed (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Funny, my dictionary here at work (The American Heritage 3rd edition) gives this definition: Neither moral nor immoral Try dictionary.com and see what you come up with. (or should I do the legwork for you?) Tell you what, I'll mail you my (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's wrong with that? Are you advocating limits on speech rights? If you don't want your kids exposed to porn and violence - monitor what they are watching. Just because the US is a democracy doesn't mean the the individual household has to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm saying that I agree with Larry. Do you think I'm disagreeing? What are you looking for here? (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Meat related agricultural..." Seems a little vague to me, but I think I understand what you are getting at from the rest of the thread. You'll also have to bear with me since I am at work and am unwilling to go to either site while at work. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interestingly, my thesaurus give these replacements for “amoral”. Unprincipled Unethical Dishonourable Unscrupulous *Immoral* Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You have asked this already. I have answered it already. (...) I think we tend to group socially with those who have morals which match our own. (...) Your own values are your own. We are all individuals. (...) A great deal. (...) Yes (...) It (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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When did the polling take place? What group was polled – age/sex/ethnic background? What order were the questioned asked in? Was any supplemental information given? How was the poll undertaken - telephone / face-to-face/via the web? Were any other (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
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(...) Perhaps it is time it was brought into the 21st century? Much of it is based on the English bill of rights which dates back to 1689. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How right you are. But pasting all this LP crap into LUGNET is one step away from pasting adds for chocalte bars or cars. There are real issue out their which are worth talking about - your selfish breed of politics is not. It often surprises (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not think that "lack" is strong enough to suggest that. But, even if it is I still think it is negative. (...) I have. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I already have. Like I said before, read before you post. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying the dictionary larry quoted is wrong? Are you saying the one I quoted is wrong? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry is right. Read on through the thread and you will see that I have indeed changed my mind. -Duane (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes (in part): (...) I'll come out on this one. I love the film, Capricorn One [1]. I believe the hoax theory is plausible [2], and I even doubted the veracity of the moon landing for a few days a couple (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes (in part): (...) Actually, I think the consprirists only believe the moon landings themselves were faked, not the space program, nor the earth orbits. They seem to believe that we have orbited the (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I agree with the suggestion, but not for the same reason. Generally, I have no problem with threads changing subject, as long as the subject line points this out. However, as I use the web interface to post to Lugnet (most of the time), (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here's a page that's highly biased against the hoax theory, but has links to lotsa stuff on both sides. ROSCO (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not deluded about it now. Perhaps I should say that I felt that way AT THE TIME (i.e. I thought I was teaching that jerk a lesson). I realize now as an adult that beating him up didn't somehow convince him to be a better person. More than (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dan, I'm all for how you handled that. 100%. But don't delude yourself. What you did settled your internal justicemeter. It tought the thug nothing about respect for animals. The best it could have possibly done was taught him that some people (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Nope, I don't do the converting thing. If someone doesn't agree with me on a topic, it doesn't disturb me in the least. However, I do enjoy being challenged, wheather I challenge myself, or find myself challenged by another force (people, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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i'm rather devided on the "want to believe" concept... ...the kid in me certainly thinks it a great idea to have aliens visiting Earth and leaving advanced technology... ...however, the realist in me doesn't think it would be such a hot idea to have (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, sure! And that's a perfectly valid reason in and of itself, wasn't challenging that. Just wondering if you had something deeper in mind with the question, is all. (Some convertor used this question as an opener to try to convince me of (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Could the moon landings have been faked, of course. However, I believe they happened and seriously doubt there was a conspiracy regarding the matter. We know the rockets went up and we have the first hand accounts of the astronauts who rode them. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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