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Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:58:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
Scott A wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
I've read it.  You are being your normal obfuscating self.

Tom,
I can't remember the last time I read a constructive post from you in this
group.

This, coming from you, is beyond laughable.  You are the biggest contributor of useless
noise to this group of anyone I've seen to date.



Scott A


If you can't keep your story straight within a single post, why should we trust
anything you say whatsoever across an entire thread or more?

<ScottA>
What's the matter?  Not going to answer?  Why not, afraid to?
</ScottA>

I already have. Like I said before, read before you post.

Scott A




Scott A wrote:

Tom,
try reading the whole thread before you jump in with your one-liners.

Scott A

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
Scott A wrote:

Don't all morally conscious
creatures pass moral judgement?

By doing so we infer our morals on them - rather conceited I think.

Ah, so all morality is conceited? If not, please clarify.

No, inferring ones own morals on others is. If an individual makes a
donation to a charity they deem worthy - good for them. But it is wrong of
them to pass judgement on me for not doing the same.

So inferring ones own morals on others is conceited, but inferring "your
society's" is not?  Why not?


If not, then what's the point (read use) of
having a moral judgement? If so, then what standard can we judge against
except our own?

The morals of the societies we live in - not our individual morals.

So soceity is conceited?  If not, why not?  If inferring an individual's morals on
another is conceited, why is inferring a society's morals on another NOT
conceited?


Can we pass judgement on society?

Why not? Some societies are clearly questionable.

Rather conceited, don't you think?


"I don't thin that word means what you thin it means."


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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
(...) This, coming from you, is beyond laughable. You are the biggest contributor of useless noise to this group of anyone I've seen to date. (...) <ScottA> What's the matter? Not going to answer? Why not, afraid to? </ScottA> (...) -- | Tom Stangl, (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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