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Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:14:19 GMT
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Scott A wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > I've read it.  You are being your normal obfuscating self.
> 
> Tom,
> I can't remember the last time I read a constructive post from you in this
> group.

This, coming from you, is beyond laughable.  You are the biggest contributor of useless
noise to this group of anyone I've seen to date.



> Scott A
> 
> > 
> > If you can't keep your story straight within a single post, why should we trust
> > anything you say whatsoever across an entire thread or more?

<ScottA>
What's the matter?  Not going to answer?  Why not, afraid to?
</ScottA>



> > Scott A wrote:
> > 
> > > Tom,
> > > try reading the whole thread before you jump in with your one-liners.
> > > 
> > > Scott A
> > > 
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > Scott A wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Don't all morally conscious
> > > > > > > > creatures pass moral judgement?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > By doing so we infer our morals on them - rather conceited I think.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ah, so all morality is conceited? If not, please clarify.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, inferring ones own morals on others is. If an individual makes a
> > > > > donation to a charity they deem worthy - good for them. But it is wrong of
> > > > > them to pass judgement on me for not doing the same.
> > > > 
> > > > So inferring ones own morals on others is conceited, but inferring "your
> > > > society's" is not?  Why not?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > If not, then what's the point (read use) of
> > > > > > > > having a moral judgement? If so, then what standard can we judge against
> > > > > > > > except our own?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The morals of the societies we live in - not our individual morals.
> > > > 
> > > > So soceity is conceited?  If not, why not?  If inferring an individual's morals on
> > > > another is conceited, why is inferring a society's morals on another NOT
> > > > conceited?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Can we pass judgement on society?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why not? Some societies are clearly questionable.
> > > > 
> > > > Rather conceited, don't you think?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "I don't thin that word means what you thin it means."
> > > > 
> > > > 
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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
(...) I already have. Like I said before, read before you post. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
(...) Tom, I can't remember the last time I read a constructive post from you in this group. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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