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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:46:52 GMT
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Duane Hess wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:

Are you advocating limits on speech rights? If you
don't want your kids exposed to porn and violence - monitor what they are
watching.

What if a kid has a parent that does not care - is that OK? What if the
violence/porn is exploitative - is that OK?

That's the parent's duty - not mine, or the governments for that matter
either.

So you would rather that kid was corrupted, than some sort of age check
system was used?

Are you sure that the child will be corrupted? I would rather that the child
be exposed to the realities of life so that it can form its own opinion on
what is right/wrong.

"realities of life"? You think violence in movies and pornography represent
the "realities of life"? It looks like my life is duller than I thought.


Then I'm assuming that you've never had sex, or been in a fist-fight.

Why?

Pornography is just a graphical depiction of sex. Sex happens in real life.

Violence happens in real life to varying degrees. Get threatened with a
crow-bar

I see your crow-bar and raise you a gun (no I didn't get shot, but I did
have a gas station attendant pull a gun on me (see
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=2535 and it's followups if
you want to see the details).

or get maced sometime. I feel that both are pretty violent and
they have both happened to me.

I've never been maced thankfully, but having a gun pulled on me was
plenty enough excitement to last me a lifetime.

--
Frank Filz

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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com



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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) I don't want to make light of your experience (alright... I do, but it's only meant in jest), but isn't it usually the other way around? :-) (...) The macing was unfortunately an assault by a gang of kids at a pool hall one night. I should (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Guns & crowbars & mace, oh my (was: not SPAM)
 
(...) Around here, police officers have the option of carrying mace and/or pepper spray as a weapon, but if they choose to exercise that option, they must be willing to undergo the effects - in other words, they voluntarily get maced. James (who (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) Pornography is just a graphical depiction of sex. Sex happens in real life. Violence happens in real life to varying degrees. Get threatened with a crow-bar, or get maced sometime. I feel that both are pretty violent and they have both (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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